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25 oct. 2009, 13h43m

Original title: "Two viruses for the price of a bacterial infection"

Second title: "Funny Nightwish pictures >>> my opinions on music"

Well, these don't take long to read :-P

I wrote most of this a couple of days ago.

ONE

LEO_ and Sanguine_Sky and Euphoria_Nemo did this before.

Made-up questions first!

Most anticipated albums:
1. Tarja - What Lies Beneath (2010)
1. Nightwish Album VII (2011)
1. Delain - Album III (2010? 2011?)
2. The Birthday Massacre - Album IV (2010)
2. Within Temptation Album V (2010)
3. Liv Kristine - Skintight (2010)
3. Leaves' Eyes Album IV (an album of new ballads) (2010)
3. Elis - Catharsis (2009)
3. ReVamp - debut album (2010)
3. Kamelot - album... um... nine? (2010) Wow, I didn't realize they'd been around that long. O_o
3. Eluveitie - Everything Remains As It Never Was (2010)
4. Anette Olzon - solo album (2010)
4. Evanescence - Album IV (2010)
4. We Are the Fallen - debut album (2010) (I was going to vote for Carly but forgot so maybe I'll buy her band's album :-P)
5. Xandria - Album IV (2010)
6. Tristania - Album VI (2010)

Best shoutboxes:
1. Nightwish

All the other shoutboxes are pretty boring right now :(

The crowning achievement of humanity in music:
Ghost Love Score

The loveliest, most wonderful song of all time:
Shared space-time continuously Twilight Sun and The Holy Bond

Bands that get undeserved hate:
Pretty much any band that plays heavy pop music and gets lambasted for not being metal, like Lunatica and Delain, to a lesser extent Within Temptation, etc. You can't equate the worth of music with its adherence to the boundaries of a genre.

Singers who get undeserved hate:
Just about every female clean vocalist who isn't the ideal classical soprano like Vibeke or Floor. Liv: "Ethereal vocals are weak!" Tarja: "Technically flawed and therefore overrated!" Anette and Charlotte: "Pop/rock/JAZZ?!? vocals in OUR MUSIC? NEVAAAARRRR!"

Favoritest albumses of all times:
1. Leaves' Eyes - Njord

2. Nightwish - End of an Era
3. Leaves' Eyes - Vinland Saga
3. Harry Gregson-Williams - The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
3. Martin Kiszko - The Ocellus Suite: Music from Alien Empire (Have loved this for ten years now! :D)
4. Becoming the Archetype - Dichotomy
5. Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard - The Dark Knight
5. Project 86 - Songs to Burn Your Bridges By
5. Switchfoot - Nothing Is Sound (My first exposure to dark and rich music, 2005. "It'll be a day like this one when the world caves in....")

Least favoritest albums of all time:
I don't know, if I hate the music I don't listen to the entire album if I can help it. However, one of my flatmates played Vampire Weekend all the time this past spring. I HATE THAT MUSIC. Well, I kinda like some of it though.

Favoritest EP/Single of all time:
1. Andy Hunter - Life
2. Leaves' Eyes - My Destiny
3. Project 86 - The Kane Mutiny EP

Favoritest discoveries on Last.fm:
The vast majority of everything I listen to :-P From past 12 months chart:
1. Leaves' Eyes
1. Nightwish
2. Delain
2. Becoming the Archetype
2. Within Temptation
3. Theatre of Tragedy
3. The Birthday Massacre (Well, I saw that they existed on here and then tryingtofly recommended them, so....)

Least favoritest discoveries on Last.fm:
Um... Angtoria :-P

Favoritest female singers:
1. Tarja
1. Liv
2. Charlotte
2. Nell (Theatre of Tragedy)
2. Anette
2. Amulyn (Although I've only heard her on ONE SONG :-P)
2. Silje (The Gathering, Octavia Sperati)
3. Okay fine, I still like Sharon :-P

See also my 2008 journal, Top Female Vocalists and Why

Favoritest male singers:
...Who has time for male singers? <_<

Harsh:
Jason Wisdom (Becoming the Archetype)
Um... Anders Jacobsson (Draconian)
Umm.... and Morten Veland (Tristania, Sirenia)

Clean:
Marco Hietala
Roy Khan
Andrew Schwab (Project 86)
Jon Foreman (Switchfoot)

Best music videos:
1. Delain - April Rain
2. Tarja - Die Alive
3. Within Temptation - Utopia
23 Favorite Music Videos

Strangest band names:
Black Moth Super Rainbow and their amazing song titles, like Vietcaterpillar ^_^
And The Devil Wears Prada, what's up with that?

I suppose I may have once thought "The Birthday Massacre" and "Leaves' Eyes" were strange names, but not any more. :-P

Ummmm... and Morten Veland's new project, Mortemia.



I hope they become (more) famous:
Bloodline Severed (The band Amulyn sang with on one song. The hardest bits of Design Your Universe sound like Bloodline Severed to me. :-P)
And this guy.

Kamelot Liv Kristine

Best pairup:



TWO

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Get your overall top 10 artists from Last.fm, and find their three tracks you've scrobbled the most. Then note where they come in that artist's tracks chart. The lower the track in the list, the weirder you are... or something to that effect.
^re-worded because that's what I do.

Leaves' Eyes
Twilight Sun is #35
The Holy Bond is #21
The Dream is #31

I've never liked the Leaves' Eyes top 15 much. At least now the top two tracks don't have ten times as many plays as anything else, that was ANNOYING. :-P I'm pretty sure they still get played a lot more than the others on Last.fm tag radio, though, just because they've been playable longer than anything else and picked up more attention in that time, leading to blah blah blah blah who really cares how Last.fm radio works any way.



Nightwish
Nemo is #1
The Heart Asks Pleasure First is #343 this week and something like #1,020 for the past six months.

Ghost Love Score is #14

Howard Shore
The White Tree is #18
The Houses of Healing is #126 (But I'm scrobbling it as Liv Tyler - Arwen's Song :-P)
Isengard Unleashed is #56

Project 86
A Shadow on Me is #38
Lucretia My Reflection is #95 (Favoritest cover ever, by the way)
The Spy Hunter is #16

Within Temptation
Jillian (I'd Give my Heart) is #24
Memories is #3
Running Up That Hill is #33

Hans Zimmer
Red Warrior is #49
Run Free is #138 (I rented Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron because of this track :-P)
Drink Up Me Hearties is #7

ApologetiX
Corinthians is #2
Smooth Grandmama is #8
Here I Go (Against All I've Known) is not on the weekly chart, #138 for the past six months
^These are, respectively, parodies of Linkin Park, Alien Ant Farm/Michael Jackson, and Whitesnake

Switchfoot
Lonely Nation is #21
We Are One Tonight is #20
Awakening is #11

Theatre of Tragedy
Storm is #10
Envision is #52
Ashes and Dreams is #33

"Forever Is the World" is my favorite of their songs, it's just not up there on my chart yet. If you haven't heard it yet:



Relient K
Forgiven is #31
Fallen Man is #159 :D
More Than Useless is #19

Commentaires

  • nDroae

    Lol :D Glad you enjoyed it! I wish I could understand that one Spanish parody video, Karla said it included Tuomas saying "I confess, I love Marcelo" :)

    25 oct. 2009, 14h32m
  • tryingtofly

    this is awesome...that photo of Liv...*snickers* and why is Sharon number 9? >.>

    25 oct. 2009, 19h46m
  • tryingtofly

    Oh and I can't let myself listen to the new TofT album until I listen to the music I own more I've decided >.>

    25 oct. 2009, 19h46m
  • nDroae

    You and your incentives :-P I've probably spent hundreds on music I've listened to once or twice. Glad you liked it :) Sharon, well, I just don't like her voice as much any more... especially compared to the others there, whose voices are more pleasing to my ear.

    26 oct. 2009, 3h01m
  • JimKnopf-

    male singers > female singers. Women are annoying.

    26 oct. 2009, 12h56m
  • nDroae

    [img]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2519/nightwish1135224319876c.jpg[/img]

    26 oct. 2009, 13h35m
  • ATaleTaken

    "male singers > female singers. Women are annoying." Elizabeth fraser > male vocalists.

    1 nov. 2009, 5h54m
  • nDroae

    Mmm... Isengard Unleashed. Good track.

    1 nov. 2009, 12h16m
  • florianblaschke

    "Bands that get undeserved hate: Pretty much any band that plays heavy pop music and gets lambasted for not being metal, like Lunatica and Delain, to a lesser extent Within Temptation, etc." In fact, I mind Lunatica and Delain less than Within Temptation. Perhaps because Lunatica doesn't really have any rabid, annoying fangirls, and Delain doesn't seem to be infested by that plague that much, either. "You can't equate the worth of music with its adherence to the boundaries of a genre." I wouldn't say that bands like Nemesea, Xandria, Krypteria or (recent) Sirenia are courageous innovators that step over boundaries for artistic purposes. Tristania and After Forever are examples for ambitious bands who did step over genre boundaries in their day, while helping to establish new ones. Or bands like Diablo Swing Orchestra who experiment with the weirdest combinations of genres ... somehow I don't consider the combination of pop and symphonic metal particularly original. ;-) "Singers who get undeserved hate: Just about every female clean vocalist who isn't the ideal classical soprano like Vibeke or Floor." Vibeke and Floor the ideal classical sopranos? O_O Floor didn't even use any real classical technique until their self-titled album, as she has admitted in an interview herself. As for Vibeke, sure, she sounds great on the first Tristania albums, but her voice does not seem very strong and once she has to carry lead vocals I find that weaknesses become apparent, even if the "Vibeke-is-so-much-better-than-Tarja"-fangirls deny them. In "Illumination", she just doesn't sound good in my ears, and at times downright annoying, as in "Destination Departure" (breathy! arrgh!), unfortunately I have to say, because I do like her and her voice. A lot. But I have to be honest and admit that I don't enjoy her there even though I paid for that album. The music and the way she is employed there doesn't seem to fit her equally well as the early Tristania albums. A friend of mine, who is a big fan, actually said that Vibeke's voice is not powerful enough for Nightwish songs. "Liv: "Ethereal vocals are weak!"" She's light, she's breathy, but she manages to pull it off. In fact, I have the impression that her vocals on "Njord" are more powerful than ever. Actually, I do think that her singing approach is basically "classical", perhaps in a similar sense as Frank Sinatra was influenced by bel canto. Or compare Madonna (a role model for Liv) singing "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" using a rather "classical" setting and Whitney Houston belting "One Moment in Time". "Tarja: "Technically flawed and therefore overrated!"" She isn't technically flawed. Bashers talking out of their ass, not out of competence. "Anette and Charlotte: "Pop/rock/JAZZ?!? vocals in OUR MUSIC? NEVAAAARRRR!"" Jazz? O_o Rock? Meh - pop rock perhaps. Anyway, there are quite a few female singers in the genre who don't exactly sing in a classical way, Floor being one (most of the time), or Anneke van Giersbergen, Lisa of Draconian, Henriette Bordvik, and I don't see people bash those nearly as much. No, the real problem is Anette's attitude, that of the other members, and the fact that their actions keep belying their words, and that despite the guys' assertions Anette simply doesn't have the same range, power, agility, precision, control, colour, technique - in short: skill -, stage presence, sense of looks, movement and performance, expressivity and feeling for the appropriate mood/interpretation and what else is needed to convincingly perform Nightwish songs, to "sell" them. She doesn't do her own interpretation, she just doesn't manage the songs. That's why Marco has to "help" her singing songs like Wishmaster ... it's totally plain how easily he drowns her out, and her yodelling ornamentations are merely a pathetic attempt to conceal the fact that she cannot hit the notes that she is expected to. Sing, not yell or scream on the top of her lungs. Hit those damn notes, not a half-note past. (Real art means to make doing difficult things appear effortless, you know.) I bet Burgundia, who doesn't sing classical either, CAN nail the songs. Unfortunately, she is black ... It's amazing when I listen to other candidates who applied for Nightwish - 99% sound (and look) better than Anette in every way. Even the Canadian girl who is said to have been the second choice. She's actually GOOD. It's maddening.

    5 déc. 2009, 4h32m
  • florianblaschke

    BTW, I don't remember who it was, but somebody told me that they heard "The Silent Force" played as background music in a department store ... >_>

    5 déc. 2009, 4h41m
  • nDroae

    [i]In fact, I mind Lunatica and Delain less than Within Temptation. Perhaps because Lunatica doesn't really have any rabid, annoying fangirls, and Delain doesn't seem to be infested by that plague that much, either.[/i] Haha! Delain will before long if they don't already. :) [i]I wouldn't say that bands like Nemesea, Xandria, Krypteria or (recent) Sirenia are courageous innovators that step over boundaries for artistic purposes.[/i] No, nor would I. I... equate how much a band is worth to me with how much I enjoy their music. On an absolute scale, I guess every band can decide what their goals are, and they can be judged against how well they measure up to those goals. I usually can't know whether a band wants to be truly artistically valid or not, but if it's in doubt I like to assume not. :D [i]Vibeke and Floor the ideal classical sopranos? O_O[/i] ...I don't really know anything about this, I just heard on this site, repeatedly over the years, that they are the best classical sopranos in metal. :D [i]Floor didn't even use any real classical technique until their self-titled album, as she has admitted in an interview herself.[/i] That would be a problem, as I only really know her from that album XD [i]As for Vibeke, sure, she sounds great on the first Tristania albums, but her voice does not seem very strong and once she has to carry lead vocals I find that weaknesses become apparent, even if the "Vibeke-is-so-much-better-than-Tarja"-fangirls deny them.[/i] Being on the opposite side of that battleground, THAT'S AWESOME! ;) [i][Liv is] light, she's breathy, but she manages to pull it off. In fact, I have the impression that her vocals on "Njord" are more powerful than ever. Actually, I do think that her singing approach is basically "classical", perhaps in a similar sense as Frank Sinatra was influenced by bel canto. Or compare Madonna (a role model for Liv) singing "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" using a rather "classical" setting and Whitney Houston belting "One Moment in Time".[/i] Awesome! :) [i][Tarja] isn't technically flawed. Bashers talking out of their ass, not out of competence.[/i] Yes, since writing this I have picked that up from your other posts. :D I never even knew what these flaws were meant to be. [i]Jazz? O_o Rock? Meh - pop rock perhaps.[/i] I dunno about this either, but Charlotte took lessons in jazz vocals (she said so herself) and Anette, well, first I called her voice a pop voice, then I was corrected to "rock," and I don't really know what to think her vocals are or care much for that matter.... XD Regarding Anette and Nightwish, I agree in part... I do wish they would be more humble sometimes, and I don't like the way Anette dresses or moves (with some exceptions). On the other hand I claim to prefer her Sleeping Sun to the original.... XD

    5 déc. 2009, 5h18m
  • nDroae

    Also - what I was complaining about wasn't mature listeners like you who can "reality check" fans who think symphonic pop metal is the best music ever invented. :D I was complaining about the metalheads whose criticisms have nothing to do with artistry, and usually include "arguments" such as "this is pop," "mainstream shit," "not metal," etc. Meanwhile they probably love other true metal bands which are no more original, daring, etc. (if perhaps less mainstream, woohoo). That's why I say those people value "adherence to the boundaries of a genre" above all else. :) Of course this is only a generalization, but not IMO an unjustifiable one. XD

    6 déc. 2009, 0h02m
  • florianblaschke

    Hmm, but at least Nightwish still claim they're 100% metal and NOT POPPY AT ALL, AFTER ALL WE HAVE NOT ONLY HEAVEH-AS-FUCK-GUITARS, BUT ALSO OUR SECRET WEAPON, 'METAL GOD' MARCO 'VIKING' HIETALA IN OUR MIDST!!!11 :-P And those other bands are marketed as metal bands too. But all this "hair metal" and "pop metal" (in the 80s - even though not all of it was bad) or AOR, and "alternative metal" or "nu metal" (in the 90s), and now "metalcore" is the "false metal" that "true metalheads" have lambasted for decades, and they DO have a point. Just like "old-school goths" have a right to point out that symphonic metal has little if anything to do with gothic rock, except PERHAPS some lyrical themes SOMETIMES. I mean - as little as I like Britney Spears, at least she has never claimed to make anything but pop music, and this way, never trodden on the toes of any music-based subculture. I have to acknowledge that. ;-) And while I don't hate pop music in general - in fact, I do enjoy some of it, and can tolerate other stuff (not a fan of Amy Winehouse, but I can stand her at least for a song or two - she's got more to do with jazz than Charlotte I think :-P) - I wouldn't really call pop music "good music" with a clear conscience, even the songs I like (usually more out of nostalgic feelings than anything else). More like varying shades of crap. :-P It's just too limited a scheme. "Indie pop" isn't a real alternative to me. I liked how a punk fan on last.fm somewhere once said "I know I listen to bad music". :D As for jazz singers, check out Maria Lund's "Uinuva aurinko". :-P

    6 déc. 2009, 1h56m
  • florianblaschke

    Oh, and just because Charlotte took lessons in jazz vocals doesn't make her a jazz singer. James LaBrie has taken opera lessons for at least 20 years if I'm not mistaken, but that doesn't make his Hetfield-like vocals sound operatic. xD

    6 déc. 2009, 2h04m
  • nDroae

    Oh yeah, Nightwish and the "pop" thing, I guess they are failing in that sense! XD Oh well... and yeah, I've seen some ridiculous marketing gibberish on the wrapping of CDs, but as long as the band themselves don't get self-righteous about it I don't mind what the labels spout about them. :) Fair point... but I have a lot more respect for first-generation goths than metalheads I'm afraid. XD Too often the people I'm talking about are in fact fans of nu metal or metalcore. As for the legitimate metalheads, well, I guess I can't complain as long as they don't complain incessantly about it (what's the point?), paste the same message indiscriminately into 10 different bands' shoutboxes, that sort of thing. :-P Speaking of goth rock, the beginning of Sirens of the Seven Seas from the last Sirenia album actually sounds like the Sisters of Mercy or something. :D And yes, that's pretty much the only example I can cite of any musical similarity. ;) That explains it then :D I wouldn't have called Charlotte's vocals jazz, but (the usual story) someone said she uses jazz vocals and I believed them. :-P

    6 déc. 2009, 3h09m
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