• Another Billboard/ chart comparasion

    16 jan. 2008, 23h17m

    Link to first comparasion

    Exactly six months later, I'm at it again. Same ground rules apply. Some new additions:

    1. If the highest charting version of the track isn't main artist - track title, then I state the tagging of the highest charting version in the first parenthesis.

    2. If the streamable version of the track follows neither of the previous conventions, I will then list the streamable version of the track in parenthesis.

    And now, with the fact that fingerprinting should be in the near future, the number with the plus sign in parenthesis are even more useful, as fingerprinting should allow most of the misspellings to be counted as the same track.

    In Billboard Order:

    Flo Rida w/ T-Pain - Low (Flo Rida - Low (feat. T-Pain)) (Streamable as Flo Rida - Low [feat+T-Pain])
    732 (+651=1,383)

    Alicia Keys - No One
    9,198 (53)

    Timbaland w/ OneRepublic - Apologize (Timbaland - Apologize (feat. OneRepublic))

    Chris Brown - Kiss Kiss (Chris Brown - Kiss Kiss (feat. T-Pain)) (Streamable as Chris Brown - Kiss Kiss (Main Version))
    1,113 (+1,094=2,206)

    Fergie - Clumsy

    Colbie Caillat - Bubbly
    5,701 (328)

    Finger Eleven - Paralyzer

    Jordin Sparks - Tattoo (Streamable as Jordin Sparks - Tattoo (Main Version))
    1,850 (+178=2,028)

    Sara Bareilles - Love Song

    Soulja Boy - Crank That (Soulja Boy - CRANK THAT SOULJA BOY)
    924 (+1,835=2,759)

    Rihanna w/ Ne-Yo - Hate That I Love You (Rihanna - Hate That I Love You (feat. Ne-Yo))

    Chris Brown - With You (Streamable as Chris Brown - With You (Main Version))

    Sean Kingston - Take You There

    Baby Bash w/ T-Pain - Cyclone (Baby Bash - Cyclone (Feat. T-Pain)) (Streamable as Baby Bash Featuring T-Pain - Cyclone)
    434 (+637=1,071)

    Wyclef Jean - Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill) (Wyclef Jean - Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill) (feat. Akon, Lil Wayne And Introducing Niia))
    485 (+785=1,270)

    Taylor Swift - Our Song

    Natasha Bedingfield w/ Sean Kingston - Love Like This (Natasha Bedingfield - Love Like This (feat. Sean Kingston))
    577 (+422=999)

    Taylor Swift - Teardrops on My Guitar
    1,248 (+94=1,342)

    Kanye West w/ T-Pain - Good Life (Kanye West - Good Life (Ft. T-Pain))
    3,633 (+1,315=4,948)

    Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry
    5,074 (+1,013=6,087)

    Snoop Dogg - Sensual Seduction
    865 (+631=1,496)

    Kanye West - Stronger
    12,333 (17)

    Plies w/ Akon -Hypnotized (Plies - Hypnotized (feat. Akon)) (Streamable as Plies - Hypnotized (featuring Akon) (Amended Album Version))
    145 (+242=387)

    Matchbox Twenty - How Far We've Come
    2,601 (+841=3,4,42)

    Alicia Keys - Like You'll Never See Me Again

    Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music
    7,729 (108)

    Linkin Park - Shadow of the Day
    8,688 (71)

    Britney Spears - Piece of Me (Streamable as Britney Spears - Piece Of Me (Main Version))
    10,281 (40)

    Good Charlotte - Dance Floor Anthem

    Timbaland w/ Keri Hilson - The Way I Are
    4,482 (+3,211=7,693)

    Paramore - Misery Business
    10,947 (29)

    Santana w/ Chad Kroeger - Into the Night
    883 (+1,097=1,980)

    Trey Songz - Can't Help But Wait
    637 (+110=747)

    Mary J. Blige - Just Fine

    Kanye West f/ Dwele - Flashing Lights (Kanye West - Flashing Lights (ft. Dwele))

    Daughtry - Over You

    J. Holiday - Suffocate

    Nickelback - Rockstar

    Sugarland - Stay

    Playaz Circle w/ Lil Wayne - Duffle Bag Boy
    67 (+109=176)

    DJ Khaled - I'm So Hood (DJ Khaled - I'm So Hood (feat. T-Pain, Trick Daddy, Rick Ross & Plies))
    447 (+261=708)

    Pink - Who Knew (Streamable as P!nk - Who Knew)
    2,697 (+547=3,244)

    Billy Ray Cyrus/Miley Cyrus - Ready, Set, Don't Go (Billy Ray Cyrus - Ready, Set, Don't Go)
    58 (+16=74)

    Buckcherry - Sorry (Steamable as Sorry (Album Version))

    Maroon 5 - Wake Up Call
    5,525 (356)

    Birdman w/ Lil' Wayne - Pop Bottles
    155 (+149=304)

    Miley Cyrus - See You Again

    Bow Wow & Omarion - Girlfriend

    OneRepublic - Stop and Stare
    1,351 (+1,128=2,479)

    Webbie/Lil' Phat/Lil' Boosie - Independent (Webbie - Independent)
    79 (+109=188)

    In order (counting alternate titles):

    Kanye West - Stronger 12,333

    Paramore - Misery Business 10,947

    Britney Spears - Piece of Me 10,281

    Alicia Keys - No One 9,198

    Linkin Park - Shadow of the Day 8,688

    Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music 7,729

    Timbaland w/ Keri Hilson - The Way I Are 7,693

    Timbaland w/ OneRepublic - Apologize 6,727

    Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry 6,087

    Colbie Caillat - Bubbly 5,701

    Maroon 5 - Wake Up Call 5,525

    Nickelback - Rockstar 5,482

    Fergie - Clumsy 5,153

    Kanye West w/ T-Pain - Good Life 4,948

    Sara Bareilles - Love Song 4,140

    Finger Eleven - Paralyzer 3,584

    Matchbox Twenty - How Far We've Come 3,442

    Good Charlotte - Dance Floor Anthem 3,402

    P!nk - Who Knew 3,244

    Alicia Keys - Like You'll Never See Me Again 3,218

    Kanye West - Flashing Lights (ft. Dwele) 2,945

    Soulja Boy - CRANK THAT SOULJA BOY 2,759

    Chris Brown - With You 2,574

    OneRepublic - Stop and Stare 2,479

    Chris Brown - Kiss Kiss (feat. T-Pain) 2,206

    Jordin Sparks - Tattoo (Main Version) 2,028

    Santana w/ Chad Kroeger - Into the Night 1,980

    Sean Kingston - Take You There 1,602

    Rihanna - Hate That I Love You (feat. Ne-Yo) 1,588

    Snoop Dogg - Sensual Seduction 1,496

    Daughtry - Over You 1,449

    Flo Rida - Low (feat. T-Pain) 1,363

    Taylor Swift - Teardrops on My Guitar 1,342

    Miley Cyrus - See You Again - 1,284

    Wyclef Jean - Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill) (feat. Akon, Lil Wayne And Introducing Niia) 1,270

    Taylor Swift - Our Song 1,163

    Mary J. Blige - Just Fine 1,157

    Baby Bash - Cyclone (Feat. T-Pain) 1,071

    Natasha Bedingfield w/ Sean Kingston - Love Like This 999

    Buckcherry - Sorry 883

    Trey Songz - Can't Help But Wait 747

    DJ Khaled - I'm So Hood (feat. T-Pain, Trick Daddy, Rick Ross & Plies) 708

    J. Holiday - Suffocate 677

    Sugarland - Stay 445

    Plies - Hypnotized (feat. Akon) 387

    Birdman w/ Lil' Wayne - Pop Bottles 304

    Bow Wow & Omarion - Girlfriend 253

    Webbie - Independent 188

    Playaz Circle w/ Lil Wayne - Duffle Bag Boy 176

    Billy Ray Cyrus - Ready, Set, Don't Go 74

    Biggest Losers from Billboard->

    1.) Flo Rida - Low (feat. T-Pain) -31
    2.) Baby Bash - Cyclone (Feat. T-Pain) -24
    3.) Natasha Bedingfield w/ Sean Kingston - Love Like This -22
    4.) Plies - Hypnotized (feat. Akon) -22
    5.) Chris Brown - Kiss Kiss (feat. T-Pain) -21

    Biggest Gainers from Billboard->

    1.) Maroon 5 - Wake Up Call +34
    2.) Paramore - Misery Business +29
    3.) Nickelback - Rockstar +26
    4.) Britney Spears - Piece of Me +25
    5.) OneRepublic - Stop and Stare +25

    Looks like pop music is making an ever larger dent than it was six months ago. I think it's because the new people that are signing up are more of the "non-technical but still computer literate" crowd that is more likely to listen to pop music. Basically, the people that make up the majority of users on social networking sites.

    There were a couple of things in the numbers that surprised me. The first was how high No One was. It's good to see that that many people are listening to her, but slightly sad because I don't think that's her best song by a long shot. And I don't think in the almost year and half I've been here I've seen an R&B artist chart that high (unless you count Amy Winehouse). The second surprise was Britney Spears. I haven't heard anything good about the new album, but that's now two songs in the top 100, and the album has been out for a while now. And for her to be more popular here than on the radio? Shocking, to say the least. The third suprise was the amount of listeners to the Miley Cyrus track. I don't think there are that many tweens on this site, so it looks like her popularity extends further than I thought it did agewise, as that number of listeners isn't bad at all for a fairly new pop song.

    And finally, looking at the Gainers and Losers, the worst charting sons still are mainly primarily regional hip-hop and country, which is completely understandable, seeing as neither has much of a audience outside the United States. And the biggest gainers are rock and indie pop songs, though, due to the nature of, songs that were popular over the summer/fall but are now descending the charts are still doing well on here, as just because radio stations aren't playing them and people aren't buying as many copies doesn't mean people have stopped listening.

    P.S. - One of the fun things about this was going to these artist's pages and looking at the shoutbox chatter. People argue about the most trivial things. Best example being the whole Timbaland/OneRepublic debate.
  • After a year on ...

    2 sept. 2007, 1h59m

    I'm really happy with the service. The only thing i was looking for was something to log my plays across media players (Winamp, WMP, and iTunes), which this does excellently. But I like the social aspects, and am completely enamored with the utilities people have written. In fact, I'd kinda like to write one myself that deals with the correlation between top songs and producers, but that's going to take a buttload of information to get off the ground, and I'm not sure I want to undertake something that heavy. Anyway, because of how much I have enjoyed the service, I am going to subscribe for probably two months to show my support. I subscribed before, and while there were small benefits, I was really hoping to be able to get into a beta, but none was running during the month I paid for. Hopefully some of the more talked about features will be introduced in a beta form soon, and the audio fingerprinting going on has me really excited for the future.
  • A Comparasion between Billboard's charts and's

    16 juin 2007, 4h19m

    Anyone who pays attention knows that has a decidedly rock/indie rock/indie pop lean (and that's an understatement) when it comes to it's charts, both globally and with the U.S. charts. I set out to see how bad this lean actually was. What I originally wanted to do is use the Billboard 200 albums chart (which actually only charts sales) and, but realized that doesn't have any way to check how many listeners an album has. So then I wanted switched to the Billboard Top 100 charts (which I believe rely on both sales and radio airplay) and the U.S. country page. But then I realized that for tracks that aren't in the U.S. top 500 or so, there was no accurate way to determine how many U.S. listeners they had without knowing the amount of people overall on, which I have never heard a straight believable answer for. So I decided to go with global chart numbers instead, knowing that is truly a global website and many countries are submitting listening data, which more than likely will not go along very well with the U.S.-centric data of Billboard. So, here is a small table with the current Billboard top 50 songs, and their relative position on global charts if possible (and the number of listeners last week for all of them to compare):

    P.S. I really wish had some kind of table markup so that I could do respectable columns!

    P.P.S. As far as the second number in parenthesis, I used the most popular spelling of the track for the first number. But if there is an obvious misspelling of the track name that is also in the top 20 for that artist, I took that into account for the second number, so it's kind of like an in a perfect world total (but only for songs that didn't make the global charts).

    Position on Billboard
    Position (Listeners)on

    Rihanna Featuring Jay-Z

    Shop Boyz
    Party Like A Rockstar

    T-Pain Featuring Yung Joc
    Buy U A Drank (Shawty Snappin')

    Big Girls Don't Cry

    Maroon 5
    Makes Me Wonder

    Plain White T's
    Hey There Delilah

    Avril Lavigne

    Justin Timberlake
    Summer Love

    Pop, Lock & Drop It

    Amy Winehouse


    Lil Mama
    Lip Gloss

    Carrie Underwood
    Before He Cheats

    Fall out Boy
    Thnks Fr Th Mmrs

    U + Ur Hand

    BNTH featuring Akon
    I Tried

    Kelly Clarkson
    Never Again

    Give it to Me

    Get it Shawty

    Gwen Stefani featuring Akon
    The Sweet Escape

    Fergie featuring Ludacris

    T-Pain featuring Akon

    Linkin Park
    What I've Done

    2 Step

    Because of You

    R. Kelly
    I'm A Flirt

    Big Things Poppin' (Do It)

    Hannah Montana
    Nobody's Perfect

    This is Why I'm Hot

    Enrique Iglesias
    Do You Know?

    Diddy featuring Keyshia Cole
    Last Night

    Like A Boy

    Don't Matter

    Elliott Yamin
    Wait for You

    DJ Khaled
    We Takin' Over

    Big & Rich
    Lost in This Moment

    Gym Class Heroes
    Cupid's Chokehold/Breakfast in America

    Down A.K.A. Kilo
    Lean Like a Cholo

    Bow Wow
    Outta My System

    Crime Mob featuring Lil' Scrappy
    Rock Yo Hips

    If Everyone Cared

    Taylor Swift
    Teardrops on my Guitar

    Sean Kingston
    Beautiful Girls

    R. Kelly/Usher
    Same Girl

    Baby Boy da Prince featuring Lil' Boosie
    The Way I Live

    It's Not Over

    Lil' Boosie featuring Foxx & Webbie
    Wipe Me Down

    Brad Paisley

    Bobby Valentino

    Kelly Rowland featuring Eve
    Like This

    I know that there are a couple of thing that will skewer this data. First, since there are so many different ways to handle a song with more than one artist (featuring in the track name, featuring in the artist name, etc.), any track with more than one artist is going to suffer in their listening count. And second, streamable tracks are usually going to have more listeners than non-streamable tracks due to them coming up on the radio. Also, Justin Timberlake needs to name his damn tracks better, the putz.

    My basic analysis is that the lean is bad, but not as bad as I thought it was. A really popular pop/R&B track can make it onto the global charts, though it looks like rap is an entirely different story. I would like to do this every week, as well as start looking at the genre charts (pop, r&b/rap, rock, country), but I don't know if I'll have the time to do the detailed analysis that I want.
  • Eclectic Score

    4 mai 2007, 5h38m

    Take your top 20 artists. For each of these artists, collect the top 5 similar artists. The resulting number of unique artists is your eclectic score. If the score is small (extreme = 5) your musical preferences are very limited, and if it is large (extreme = 100), then you have an eclectic musical preference. You can compute your own score at

    My eclectic score is currently


    The 64 related artists for my profile are:
    50 Cent (4)
    A Tribe Called Quest - already in top 20
    Al Green (2)
    Alicia Keys
    Aretha Franklin (2)
    Beyoncé (4)
    Black Eyed Peas (2)
    Boyz II Men
    Brian McKnight
    Britney Spears
    Busta Rhymes
    Christina Aguilera (3)
    Common (2) - already in top 20
    De La Soul - already in top 20
    Destiny's Child (4)
    Dr. Dre
    Elton John
    Erykah Badu
    Gang Starr
    Gwen Stefani (2)
    James Brown (2)
    Jay-Z (3) - already in top 20
    Jennifer Lopez (2)
    Jill Scott
    Justin Timberlake (2) - already in top 20
    Kanye West (3) - already in top 20
    Ludacris (4)
    Mariah Carey (2) - already in top 20
    Marvin Gaye - already in top 20
    Mos Def (3)
    Nas (3)
    Nelly Furtado - already in top 20
    Notorious B.I.G.
    OutKast - already in top 20
    Prince (2)
    Raphael Saadiq
    Snoop Dogg (2)
    Stevie Wonder - already in top 20
    Talib Kweli
    The Beatles
    The Game
    The Roots (4)
    The Temptations
    Wu-Tang Clan
  • Record Collection

    28 avr. 2007, 2h09m

    Just for fun and the ability to show my friends what I have and have added, I'm putting my entire collection of records in this posts. And by records, I of course mean vinyl records. Singles link to songs; albums, of course, link to albums.


    Case - Think Of You/Happily Ever After (Remix)

    Black Star - Definition/Twice Inna Lifetime

    Jay-Z - Stop/Excuse Me Miss Again

    LL Cool J - Headsprung/Feel The Beat

    Amerie - 1 Thing

    Krs-One - Step into a World (Rapture's Delight)

    The Beatnuts - Watch Out Now/Turn It Out

    Brian McKnight - 6,8,12 (Remix)/Back at One (Remix)

    N.E.R.D. - She Wants To Move

    Sisqo - Can I Live

    Brownstone - If You Love Me

    Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain

    Beenie Man - Dude Featuring Ms. Thing And Shawnna Remix

    Lenny Kravitz - Storm/Storm (feat. Jay-Z)


    Billie Holliday - The Real Lady Sings the Blues

    Chuck Berry - The Great Twenty-Eight

    Grace Jones - Nightclubbing

    Sam Cooke - The Best Of Sam Cooke Volume 2

    Ray Charles - Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music

    Barry White - Stone Gon'

    Diana Ross - All the Greatest Hits

    The Mary Jane Girls - Only Four You

    Barry White - Just Another Way To Say I Love You

    Sade - Diamond Life

    Chic - C'est Chic

    Janet Jackson - Control

    The Spinners - Dancin' and Lovin'

    Diana Ross - Diana

    Roberta Flack - Blue Lights in the Basement

    Bobby Brown - Don't Be Cruel

    Michael Jackson - Thriller

    Sister Sledge - We Are Family

    Queen - Greatest Hits I

    Earth, Wind & Fire - I Am

    Herb Alpert and The Tijuana Brass - Whipped Cream & Other Delights

    KC and The Sunshine Band - KC And The Sunshine Band

    Aretha Franklin - Aretha Live at Fillmore West

    Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water

    Various Artists - Beverly Hills Cop

    Ike & Tina Turner - Come Together

    Gloria Gaynor - Love Tracks

    Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway - Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway

    Elton John - Honky Chateau

    Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

    Stevie Wonder - Hotter Than July

    Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness' First Finale

    Yazoo - Upstairs at Eric's

    Diana Ross - Lady Sings The Blues

    Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation 1814

    The Police - Synchronicity

    The Mary Jane Girls - Mary Jane Girls

    Rick James - Throwin' Down

    Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down

    Minnie Riperton - Perfect Angel

    Peaches & Herb - 2 Hot!

    Jay-Z - Black Album Acapella

    Stevie Wonder - The Woman in Red

    Madonna - You Can Dance

    Steely Dan - Aja

    Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)

    Hall & Oates - Voices

    Phil Collins - Face Value

    Kool & the Gang - Celebrate!

    The Commodores - Natural High

    Carole King - Tapestry

    Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston
  • Songs that it's sad that I'm a top listener for

    6 avr. 2007, 19h54m

    By that title, I mean I have at most 12-14 plays for any given song (and usually somewhere between 3-10 of these songs in the past 6 months). That I can come up on these songs top listeners list is kinda sad, because they should have way more listeners than they do. I'm gonna add to this list each time I see another one.

    P.S. I'm not including the tracks that I know I have mistagged.

    For The Cool In You - 574 listeners total

    Hopeless - 550 listeners total

    Under the Moon and Over the Sky - 48 listeners total

    Who Can I Run To? - 176 listeners total between two spellings
    By comparasion: Who Can I Run To - 429 listeners (cover of the same song)

    Forever More - 10 listeners total!
  • The Concert Experience

    4 mars 2007, 15h35m

    Sat 3 Mar – Red Hot Chili Peppers, Gnarls Barkley

    I went to the Red Hot Chili Peppers/Gnarls Barkley concert today. Great fun, great fun. Cee-Lo and Danger Mouse definitely held their own at the beginning of the show, but RHCP just killed it. I had almost forgot how much better most music sounds live. Except hip hop. Because even live it is usually still just a turntable with the beat and an MC. Very rarely is their any palpatable energy at a rap concert, and that is only when you get a very dynamic performer (the best I've seen in person was probably David Banner). But when you get a live band up there (i.e. the Roots, who I have seen), you just feel the energy. But back to this show. I would suggest that everyone go see one big budget stadium rock tour show in their life. Why? Because this show was one of the greatest spectacles I have ever seen. And I don't mean that as a bad thing. But they had a light show/huge video screen behind them, and four movable smaller screens in front of that. It just made the whole thing so much fun to be at. I say rock tour because most people I know don't really like pop music too well, and rock and pop tours seem to have the best stage shows. As far as rap shows, the best stage show I've seen is probably Kanye, and it was maybe half the show that this was. The best overall was probably Prince, and even that was about 3/4 the show that this was. But Prince was still an overall better concert, as I liked the music more.

    One more thing. I had completely forgotten how funky the Red Hot Chili Peppers are/used to be. There was a point during the show when I said to myself "That sounds like something James Brown would do." I looked it up when I got back and realized that they actually had an album produced by George Clinton. These are some funky white boys here. They've just gone a bit pop with their recent releases.
  • My Chart Designs (with updates)

    10 fév. 2007, 12h46m

    This post will contain examples of all of my chart designs that I want to share.

    Chart #1: Rachelle

    Chart #2: The completely unofficial Facebook Development Platform Chart

    Chart #3: Brittany
  • Top Rap Albums

    5 nov. 2006, 23h34m

    My top 21 rap albums of all time:

    Ground Rules:
    1.) I have to have heard the album in its entirety at some point in time. This excludes some albums that I know are good, like Mecca And The Soul Brother and Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde.

    2.) No artist can have more than one album on the list. This excludes albums like The Low End Theory, The Blueprint, ATLiens and Aquemini.

    3.) The vast majority of what is said here is opinion. Feel free to disagree with me. In fact, I encourage it.

    4.) Some of the things I say, you may have heard someone else say before. I'm not claiming all my thoughts are original. If I stole it from someone, it's becaues I agree wholeheartedly with them.

    First, the honorable mentions:
    Black On Both Sides
    Reflection Eternal
    It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
    Death Certificate
    When Disaster Strikes
    The Big Picture
    3 Feet High and Rising
    Quality Control

    21.) E. 1999 Eternal
    Showed that even mostly landlocked states (Ohio) could produce great rappers, and that rap talent was not solely concentrated on the East and West coasts. With the backing of Eazy-E (who is a clear influence on the style of the album), they give us their own little slice of life album. And their life seems to include a good deal of weed. Even though I don't smoke weed, it seems to me that this, and not The Chronic, should be the the album of choice for weed smokers.

    20.) Let's Get Free
    An album that was overtly political in a time where the world was all about flossin' and bling. Arguably, there had not been a good political album since Public Enemy faded from the limelight. This duo brought an intelligence and ferocity to their songs that made you pay attention. They spoke about the problems facing black society in a way that many people can relate to. And Wolves is definitely the most poignant, and quite possibly the best intro of any album ever released. This group just speaks the truth, and lays it out for the world to see.

    19.) Behind The Front
    Though alternative rap is most closely associated with rappers from NY, LA definitely had a burgeoning scene at the same time. Groups like The Pharcyde showed that there were more than just gangstas on the west coast. Then came Black Eyed Peas, to bring the fun and playfulness that had been missing from mainstream hip-hop for a while. Joints and Jam garnered them heavy rotation, but the whole album has the same breezy, easygoing feel. Reminded me of early De La Soul, in that it just had a good feeling to it.

    18.) 3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life Of...
    A group that caught lightning in a bottle. An album that just came completely out of left field. The lyrics are good, but not great, and the production is good, but not great, but the album just comes together so well and each of the songs just feel right. Some great social commentary tracks like People Everyday and Mr. Wendal, and a great track in general in Tennessee. Maybe just a matter of someone putting all their best into their debut album, and then having nothing left. Because they had nothing left after this one.

    17.) Like Water for Chocolate
    Gotta show love for the man that put Chicago on the map. Before this, Common was only known to people in Chicago and hip-hop heads. Then The Light dropped, and people took notice. Common had always been great with extended metaphors (for example, I Used to Love H.E.R.), and used that a few times on this album. Basically, he sounds like a street poet who just happens to speak over beats. This was the album wher everything came together for him, and catipulted him to the national level.

    16.) The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
    Not really sure if I can call this a rap album, since she sings more than she raps, but whatever it is, it's phenomenal. Lauryn proved with The Score that she was not only one of the best female MCs ever, but that she had a more than capable singing voice. With this album, she combines both talents to create something that it at once street and classy, rough and sophisticated. Basically, it's a perfect blend of hip hop and R&B, all placed into one album.

    15.) Blackout!
    When you put two of the most original lyricists of our generation together on one album, good things are bound to happen. These two guys play off each other as well as any duo in the business, and had been doing it for years before this album even came out. Just a crazy mix of lyrics and sparse beats.

    14.) Capital Punishment
    A great career cut short before it ever really took off. Big Punisher was the greatest latin rapper ever, the man Fat Joe has been trying to be like ever since Pun died, and this album shows why. In many aspects, the Latino Biggie. A good lyricist, a good storyteller, and he has the ability to go from hard to smooth quite easily. As good as this was, you knew it was only a hint of things to come, which makes his passing due to a heart attack even worse.

    13.) Late Registration
    What can you say about Kanye West that hasn't already been said? Obviously, he was saving his best beats for himself, because the ones on this album are better than almost everything else he had released at that point. He's one of the best punchline rappers in the game, second only to Ludacris. But when he goes conscious, he's almost just as good as heavyweights like Talib Kweli and Mos Def, and that's really saying something. Very few albums can make you laugh out lound and think really hard in the same song. Not only does he do it, he does it more than once. Hopefully, there are better things to come, but to be honest, not much could ever top this. This is the review I wrote for The College Dropout. Then he went and topped himself with even better beats and slightly better rhymes.

    12.) Stankonia
    While Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik introduced the world to OutKast specifically and the Organized Noise crew and southern rap (sans Uncle Luke) in general, and Aquemini was the album that gained them commercial success, Stankonia was what put them over the top, and entered into pop territory as something you wanted to listen to regardless of what genre of music you liked. B.O.B.(Bombs over Baghdad) is, to me, their greatest track ever, and Ms. Jackson isn't far behind. This album is at times crazy and over the top, yet also at times extremely grounded. To put it simply, this is just where they put it all together.

    11.) Straight Outta Compton
    As hardcore as hardcore gets. The nation's introduction to Dr. Dre, Eazy-E, and Ice Cube, who would all become legends in rap on their own merits. An album that captures the anger inherent in being young, black, and without many chances to succeed. You know you're hardcore when the FBI begins to investigate you because of what you are saying. Interesting Note: It took MTV about 12 years to play the Straight Outta Compton video. A sonic blitzkrieg.

    10.) Illmatic
    Deserves all the accolades put upon it. The album that put New York back on the map as the center of the rap world, after L.A. had stolen the title for a few years. No filler, just great song after great song. Nas comes out of the gate and proves himself as one of the greatest lyricists ever, a true street poet in the style of 2Pac and the like. Some people criticize how short the album is, but how many albums would be this long if they took all the bad or mediocre songs off it? Exactly.

    9.) Things Fall Apart
    Another album where a group just put it all together. The Roots have long been the greatest live act in rap, so much so that when people like Jay-Z and Eminem want to make an impression with a live performance, they use the Roots band. But they had yet to put it together for a studio album. Until this. Somehow, without making a concert album, they were able to encapsule all the energy of a live performance and put it on this record. It actually makes you want to stand up and cheer, or wave your lighter. Not to mention it has one of the best rap songs ever, in You Got Me, which made the Grammys make a new category for Rap/Sung Collaborations. The only thing that bugs me about this record is the people who didn't get the credit they deserved. Jill Scott wrote the parts that Erykah Badu sings on "You Got Me", and Eve is the female rapper on that track, but when the song won its Grammy, neither artist recieved one.

    8.) Black Star
    Quite possibly the most slept on album of all time. This album came out in '97, and maybe it was because I was living in the suburbs, but I heard nothing about it. Had never heard of Mos Def or Talib Kweli until about 2000 (a year after Black On Both Sides), and hadn't heard the album until 2001. How this album didn't get nominated for any Grammys or create any mainstream buzz shows how bad hip hop can be when it comes to downplaying the underground and overhyping the mainstream. This was something different, back in the era when Puff Daddy ruled the rap world, and everyone was battling for the title of King of NY since Notorious B.I.G. was gone. An album that was tight musically, lyrically, and in just about every other way. Still waiting for the two of them to get together to do another album, even though it may never happen.

    7.) The Marshall Mathers LP
    When Eminem released The Slim Shady LP, it was the craziest thing to hit rap since Digital Underground stopped being popular. He was a great rapper, but the things he were saying were insane, literally. The expectations were high for his next album, and he exceeded them with this one. He still kept the insanity, with tracks like Kill You and Criminal, and don't get me started on Kim, but he started to get more serious, too. Tracks like Stan and The Way I Am showed that he could be great while still being grounded. His punchlines were over the top funny, and he got great production. This was the perfect balance between crazy Em and serious Em, and he hasn't found it again since.

    6.) Me Against the World
    The greatest rap artist ever. Period. Had enough great material to have people still putting out good songs years after his death. This was the album he released right after he was sent to prison, and it's the album where the introspective 2Pac has the greatest impact. He's still talking about being a thug and the living in the streets, but this is the first time he really takes a look at where his life has been, and where it's going. It seems like it is this album where he realizes that if he keeps living his life the way he was, it would lead to an early grave, which it did.

    5.) Reasonable Doubt
    Many people compare this to Illmatic, and the comparisons are justified. They are both classic debuts from New York rappers who had street cred to spare. But what makes this album better is Dead Presidents II, which, ironically, borrows a line from The World Is Yours. Still the greatest song that Jay-Z has ever released, by far. A song that talks about the good and the bad of street life better than most artists do on a full album. And that's what's great about this album in general. It talks about both the good and the bad of street life, never making one more important or more glamorous than the other, leaving the judgements about them up to the listener.

    4.) The Score
    Dropped against a backdrop of gangsta rap, an alternative classic. An album that actually takes a theme and carries it all the way through without dropping it. Unleashed on us the talents of Lauryn Hill and Wyclef Jean. Features two cover songs that are actually on par, if not better, than the original songs. Original (and yes, I do realize that I'm calling an album with two covers original), simply unlike anything we were hearing at the time. I'm not sure I can give enough praise to this album, which showed that you didn't have to be hardcore to sell records.

    3.) Midnight Marauders
    A Tribe Called Quest is the best group in rap history, and this is their best album. As it was, they were already coming off another classic album in The Low End Theory, but this album just kicked it up a few notches. They made their music more accessible, while still staying true to their roots. The production is incredible, and the computerized tour guide throughout the album was, and still is, one of the coolest things I've ever heard on an album. Q-Tip and Phife Dawg had always been good lyrically, but this is where the production stepped up to the plate song after song.

    2a & 2b.) Doggystyle/The Chronic
    I can't really seperate these two albums, because Doggystyle feels and sounds like the Chronic II. While Snoop is much, much better than Dre lyrically, the beats on Chronic are better, and however I feel about one album, I feel exactly the same about the other. That being said, they are one of the few albums that you can legitimately say changed the face of rap, brought a sound that at that point was only regional to a national level. They also demonstrated to the world that Dr. Dre was/is quite possibly the best producer ever.

    1.) Ready to Die
    N.W.A. may have the released the first gangsta rap album, Nas may have released the first great one from a New York artist, but it was Biggie who released the quintessential gangsta rap album. There is nothing you can find wrong with this album. He is the one of the greatest storytellers ever, and uses this to his advantage in songs like Warning. He has the ability to switch from hardcore to smooth almost effortlessly, and when smooth he spits game that is some of the best ever heard, in music or otherwise, in Big Poppa. The #!*@ Me (Interlude) with Lil' Kim is arguably the funniest skit ever on any rap album. It's sad to think of what he would have been able to do had he not been killed after making only 2 albums.

    And the two more albums that more than likely would be #1 if either were a single disc album(60-78 minutes):
    Life After Death
    All Eyez on Me
  • Production Question

    4 sept. 2006, 11h08m

    I keep looking for a definitive answer to this question, and I keep getting conflicting results. So I'm posing it here to see if I can get a definitive answer.

    Multiple pages I've read state that J Dilla (Jay Dee) produced Janet Jackson's [track]Got 'Til It's Gone[/track], but went uncredited. While many others say he only produced a remix to it. Does anyone know the official truth?