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17 avr. 2009, 4h54m

Ok, so a significant part of the draw to Last.fm has always been the recommendations.

You listen to a bunch of tracks that you like and through the magic of databases, algorithms, and other listeners with similar tastes; you're presented with artist recommendations courtesy of the machine.

Their used to be a sweet feature subset of the recommendation engine that allowed groups and other users to send you recommendations to which you could also mix in to your musical discovery journey.

Unfortunately with the most recent 'overhaul' of the site, group recommendations went away completely and personal recommendations went to pot. Instead of being displayed on a singular page and allowed to populate a radio stream of unbroken recommendations, they now appear in your inbox where you have to sample them one-at-a-time.

Not nearly as fun nor conducive to the discovery listening process. :-(

I'd previously found a tool (I'll stick a link in here later) that would scrape some of your top artists data and present you a cloud of recommended artists -- it worked as good or better than the machine recommendations mentioned above.

As good as artists recommendations are however, I've always hoped for a track recommendation system... and now there is!

My understanding is that your top tracks are compiled, the most similar tracks to these, which you have not previously scrobbled, are extrapolated and then weighted on how many times they appear as a similar track to one of your top tracks. You're then presented with a list and a Last.fm friendly bb code you can copy-paste. One day hopefully there will be the ability to quickly dump the list in to a playlist or mass tag the result set in order to effortlessly begin the listening discovery process.

Until such time we'll just have to dump them somewhere here, such as a journal and either sample independantly, or use the resulting links to compile a tag set or playlist ourselves.

They say that one day in the future, the machines will do all the work for us, instead of us doing all the work for the machines...

IIRC, the first list is from feeding in my top 50 tracks, and the second list (which should be more accurate) is from feeding in my top 200. I decided to save both for sake of comparison. I expect a lot of duplicates, which should be strongly recommended, but am also interested in the uniques.

The author of this tool, kurtrips also presents a 'Random Song Statistics' generator, that will reveal how many unique tracks represent the total of all your listened tracks, and present as well an SRI or 'Song Repetition Index' representing how many times you listen to a track, when averaged over all the tracks to which you have listened.

In fact, you need to run the Random Song Statistics tool on that site before you can benefit from running the Song Recommendation Tool.

More information can be found here: Random Song Statistics And Song Recommendation Tool

Recommended Songs (sorted by most recommended songs)

Lady Folly : Ilya (Score = 114.66)
Inside My Mind (Blue Skies) : Groove Armada (Score = 93.58)
Dieu reconnaitra les Siens : DJ Cam (Score = 86.25)
Ramblin' Man : Lemon Jelly (Score = 85.65)
La Luna : Robert Rich & Steve Roach (Score = 84.87)
The Dream Is Always the Same : Tangerine Dream (Score = 83.91)
SOS : Asura (Score = 83.85)
1/1 : Brian Eno (Score = 82.95)
Yo-Yo (Abbey Road Version) : Amorphous Androgynous (Score = 82.46)
Tristesse Globale : Röyksopp (Score = 82.3)
Soluble Ducks : Animals on Wheels (Score = 81.54)
Lunar Orbit Four - Back Side Of The Moon : The Orb (Score = 81.39)
The Rhythm Resonator : Kilvo (Score = 81.39)
Self transforming experience : Solar Fields (Score = 81.24)
Velius : Helios (Score = 81.2)
Novio : Moby (Score = 81.19)
Understars : Brian Eno (Score = 81.11)
The Claddagh of Sera Kirby : Flim (Score = 81.07)
Noun : Pan•American (Score = 80.73)
Out of Nothing : O Yuki Conjugate (Score = 80.71)
Heliopolis : Banco De Gaia (Score = 79.86)
Nummer 6 : Porn Sword Tobacco (Score = 79.83)
MOS 6581 (album version) : Carbon Based Lifeforms (Score = 79.68)
Waveform (Ambient Jungle mix) : The Irresistible Force (Score = 79.67)
Black Lamb & Grey Falcon : Biosphere (Score = 79.53)
Green Reflections : Biosphere (Score = 79.45)
Nummer 14 : Porn Sword Tobacco (Score = 79.2)
Mobility Cookie Redirection : SK123 (Score = 78.99)
Big Teeth Man : Metricks (Score = 78.95)
Night Bus : Burial (Score = 78.81)
Everyone in the World Is Doing Something Without Me : The Future Sound of London (Score = 78.77)
Blue Haze : ISHQ (Score = 78.57)
Butterfly : Piana (Score = 78.5)
Beat of Desire : Steve Roach (Score = 78.37)
Isometric unit construction : Domotic (Score = 78.16)
Snowflake 8 : Yagya (Score = 78.15)
Lucky Saddle : FFWD (Score = 77.97)
Sensitive Data : Chris Korda (Score = 77.89)
Mullholland : Stars of the Lid (Score = 77.88)
Poem - Aztec hotel : Harold Budd (Score = 77.86)
Remember My Name : Bliss (Score = 77.8)
The Sea is in the Boat : The Boats (Score = 77.77)
Yara 06 : Marsen Jules (Score = 77.75)
Winston : Naked 9 (Score = 77.58)
Dark Eyed Sister : Harold Budd/Brian Eno (Score = 77.53)
Chinook : Loscil (Score = 77.46)
Reliant : Planet Bliss (Score = 77.44)
Ultrasound : Transient (Score = 77.41)
Chamber of Synthi Dreams : Pete Namlook (Score = 77.38)
Subharmonic Passage : Pete Namlook (Score = 77.38)
Fractal Liason : System 7 (Score = 77.32)
Nea 3 : Solar Fields (Score = 77.29)
Ruido : Murcof (Score = 77.26)
Lazy Sunday Funerals 01 : Marsen Jules (Score = 77.16)
A Swimming Pool Down the Railway Track : Colleen (Score = 77.12)
A Year in a Minute : Fennesz (Score = 77.1)
Samsara : Helios (Score = 77.1)
Pictures at an Exhibition : Tangerine Dream (Score = 77.02)
Through You : Seefeel (Score = 77.02)
Disk 0 : Atom Heart (Score = 77)
Track 01 : Atom Heart (Score = 77)
Kincajou (Duck! Asteroid) : Banco De Gaia (Score = 76.98)
015 + - 06 - 8.01 : Fennesz (Score = 76.91)
smell memory traktor remix : Mum (Score = 76.9)
Cloud Cover : O Yuki Conjugate (Score = 76.89)
In Moll 5 : Markus Guentner (Score = 76.86)
Shark : Juno Reactor (Score = 76.84)
Kojan : Omnimotion (Score = 76.81)
How Vacantly You Stare at Me : Harold Budd (Score = 76.75)
Speedleam (empathy mix) : The Higher Intelligence Agency (Score = 76.72)
Halcyon : Loscil (Score = 76.7)
Yu : ISHQ (Score = 76.7)
Long Life : Bliss (Score = 76.68)
d|p 4 : William Basinski (Score = 76.66)
Wing : Pan•American (Score = 76.65)
District : Patrick Pulsinger (Score = 76.55)
der wuestenplanet : Markus Guentner (Score = 76.46)
DSP Terminal : Tetsu Inoue (Score = 76.44)
Untitled 9 : Sutekh (Score = 76.29)
from star to seed : Rena Jones (Score = 76.23)
Undercurrent : Rena Jones (Score = 76.23)
The Deep (original mix) : Global Communication (Score = 76.18)
Bubbaluba : Renegade Soundwave (Score = 76.18)
Starethrough : Seefeel (Score = 76.08)
Falling, Flying, Dreaming : Steve Roach (Score = 75.99)
Holy Dance : Tetsu Inoue (Score = 75.96)
The Biosphere : Global Communication (Score = 75.95)
One Night and It's Gone : Colleen (Score = 75.85)
Mmin : Bad Loop (Score = 75.79)
Reverendrum [Tunnel Mix by Nylon Union] : Abuse (Score = 75.74)
Selinite : The Higher Intelligence Agency (Score = 75.73)
track3a(2waynice) : Keith Fullerton Whitman (Score = 75.65)
Here : Manual (Score = 75.55)
Amongst the Ruins : Delerium (Score = 75.5)
Snowflake 10 : Yagya (Score = 75.47)
Transmit Liberation : Single Cell Orchestra (Score = 75.46)
Kika : EZ3kiel (Score = 75.39)
Flight 2127 : Single Cell Orchestra (Score = 75.33)
Lifeforms (Path 5) : The Future Sound of London (Score = 75.31)
Sketch : Julien Neto (Score = 75.18)

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Recommended Songs (sorted by most recommended songs)

Lady Folly : Ilya (Score = 178.04)
Inside My Mind (Blue Skies) : Groove Armada (Score = 160.08)
pure : Sal Boca (Score = 156.63)
Ramblin' Man : Lemon Jelly (Score = 153.65)
Angel : Massive Attack (Score = 134.6)
Message in a Bottle : Saint Etienne (Score = 132.53)
Deep Love (Nitin Sawhney Remix) : Mandalay (Score = 130.92)
Going Under : Rockers Hi-Fi (Score = 130.73)
La condition pour aimer : Autour de Lucie (Score = 130.69)
Either Way : Etro Anime (Score = 130.53)
Overdue : Bitter:Sweet (Score = 129.65)
Associates : Simpletun (Score = 127.78)
Tripping on a Trip : Felix Da Housecat (Score = 126.88)
Venus : Funki Porcini (Score = 126.54)
Heaven : Bitter:Sweet (Score = 125.09)
The Big Sea : Funki Porcini (Score = 124.92)
Underground Vibes : DJ Cam (Score = 124.9)
Diablo : Etro Anime (Score = 124.61)
Let Me Sleep : Laika (Score = 124.58)
Enough : Alif Tree (Score = 124.58)
Abandoned : CLING (Score = 124.07)
Bittersweet : Atomica (Score = 123.89)
Lifeboat : Lovage (Score = 122.72)
Shock Corridor : Saint Etienne (Score = 121.1)
Keep On Moving : Audio Bullys (Score = 121.1)
No Feedback : Khoiba (Score = 120.76)
Worry : Atomica (Score = 119.86)
Laisse le temps : Olive (Score = 119.3)
Bad Things : Tricky (Score = 119.09)
Alicia Blue / Flow : Material (Score = 118.99)
Seven Souls (Tim Simenon Mix) : Material (Score = 118.99)
Ghetto Youth : Tricky (Score = 118.8)
Intro : DJ Krush (Score = 118.49)
Sweet : Lamb (Score = 117.99)
Spooky Rhodes : Laika (Score = 117.52)
Glory Box : Portishead (Score = 117.23)
07. Piano Playa Hata : Wagon Christ (Score = 116.02)
Downhill Racer (Kenny Dope Remix) : Everything But the Girl (Score = 115.82)
Scratch Yer Head (Squarepusher mix) : DJ Food (Score = 115.36)
Another Membrane : Mum (Score = 115.02)
Blue Movie : Sneaker Pimps (Score = 114.93)
Candy Mckenzie : Death in Vegas (Score = 113.37)
Beautiful (7 Canny Mix) : Mandalay (Score = 113.22)
La contradiction : Autour de Lucie (Score = 112.59)
Little Hitler : Everything But the Girl (Score = 112.07)
Shorty's Judgement : The Herbaliser (Score = 111.85)
Beautiful World : Archive (Score = 110.26)
UNKLE (Main Title Theme) : UNKLE (Score = 109.73)
Softly : Lamb (Score = 109.49)
This Love : Sarah Brightman (Score = 109.47)
Women Lose Weight (feat. Slick Rick) : Morcheeba (Score = 109.3)
Love Dub : Waldeck (Score = 108.4)
Spirits Fall : Pressure Drop (Score = 108.32)
Sheared Box : Portishead (Score = 106.91)
A Well Deserved Break : Morcheeba (Score = 106.38)
Dieu reconnaitra les Siens : DJ Cam (Score = 106.35)
Safe From Harm (Perfecto Mix) : Massive Attack (Score = 105.43)
Attica's Puma States Remix : Sneaker Pimps (Score = 104.62)
what are you to me : UNKLE (Score = 103.82)
Lunar Orbit Four - Back Side Of The Moon : The Orb (Score = 98.58)
Perfect : Supreme Beings Of Leisure (Score = 96.97)
Battersea : Hooverphonic (Score = 96.82)
Novio : Moby (Score = 96.07)
Sister Curare : Kid Loco (Score = 94.81)
Tristesse Globale : Röyksopp (Score = 94.01)
Double Drums (DJ DSL mix) : Peace Orchestra (Score = 93.94)
Everyone in the World Is Doing Something Without Me : The Future Sound of London (Score = 93.77)
Soluble Ducks : Animals on Wheels (Score = 93.03)
Remember My Name : Bliss (Score = 92.81)
La Luna : Robert Rich & Steve Roach (Score = 92.6)
SOS : Asura (Score = 91.61)
1/1 : Brian Eno (Score = 90.9)
Lifeforms (Path 5) : The Future Sound of London (Score = 90.8)
Not So Blue : Quantic (Score = 90.46)
Ain't Got Nothin' : Supreme Beings Of Leisure (Score = 89.62)
The Rhythm Resonator : Kilvo (Score = 89.22)
Reliant : Planet Bliss (Score = 89.17)
Guimar : Aim (Score = 88.82)
Understars : Brian Eno (Score = 88.64)
MOS 6581 (album version) : Carbon Based Lifeforms (Score = 88.56)
Yu : ISHQ (Score = 88.35)
The Dream Is Always the Same : Tangerine Dream (Score = 88.08)
Heliopolis : Banco De Gaia (Score = 87.49)
Yo-Yo (Abbey Road Version) : Amorphous Androgynous (Score = 86.71)
Night Bus : Burial (Score = 86.48)
Blue Haze : ISHQ (Score = 86.2)
The Sea is in the Boat : The Boats (Score = 85.6)
Lucky Saddle : FFWD (Score = 85.56)
Dark Eyed Sister : Harold Budd/Brian Eno (Score = 85.27)
Pure Synthetic : Planet Bliss (Score = 85.17)
The Claddagh of Sera Kirby : Flim (Score = 85.16)
Ultrasound : Transient (Score = 84.9)
Ruido : Murcof (Score = 84.88)
smell memory traktor remix : Mum (Score = 84.53)
Moon : Sia (Score = 84.47)
Hide and Seek : Kruder & Dorfmeister (Score = 84.44)
d|p 4 : William Basinski (Score = 84.38)
Out of Nothing : O Yuki Conjugate (Score = 84.24)
Kojan : Omnimotion (Score = 84.18)
der wuestenplanet : Markus Guentner (Score = 83.95)



I'm pleased to notice that the vast majority of these recommendations are streamable!

Now off to build a tag set to have a proper listen. :-)

Commentaires

  • dianashamilton

    Wow, thanks!

    29 avr. 2009, 1h38m
  • AdriaNnLA

    OK -- an interesting exercise to say the least, and somewhat unexpected (but perhaps explainable) results. Here goes -- as promised, I took both lists above, dropped into a spreadsheet, sorted and subtotaled. This provided me a list of 165 unique tracks from the two lists provided (each list having offered 100 tracks, with some overlap). I then set about tagging these 165 tracks, and began streaming the tag in order to listen, evaluate, and further tag these tracks. One of the 'problems' with Last.fm's logic is that even with 'discovery mode' enabled, it would appear that tracks bearing more tags/listens/love by you will cause those tracks to play more often -- the result being that you develop blisters on your Skip finger in an effort to finally get around to all the tracks. After some time, I began removing the purpose-tag for this list from any track I'd already heard and rated, that wasn't a 'great' track or above. This did help speed up the process toward the end. So now from the original 165 we have: [li]fantastic = 2 -- definite love [li]great = 26 -- I like 'em. I like 'em a lot. [li]good = 52 -- I wouldn't kick 'em out of bed [li]ok = 52 -- I can stand 'em, but maybe barely [li]banned = 19 -- couldn't stand to listen all the way through [li]fubared = 2 -- tracks are messed up and need staff attention [li]unavailable = 11 -- not yet available on Last.fm radio [li]yet to go = 1 -- still haven't heard one track -- sample doesn't cut it and its not a 'full track' -- I've added another of my 'discovery' tags to it, so it should play for me soon I guess I was most surprised at how many of these highly recommended tracks I found to be 'fantastic' versus 'banned' -- I mean 2 vs. 19 -- I'd have guessed it would be the other way around. Also surprised at the great (26) vs. the good and ok (104) -- the greats really are just that, the goods and oks, mostly -- I found myself being a tad generous most of the time. I really think that more of the goods belong in the ok, and quite a few of the ok belong in the banned -- but I usually do reserve such for tracks that I find horribly grating or irritating. How to explain it? I'm not sure that I can, but I do think that Last.fm's formula for similar tracks is built to some degree on similar tagging. Ok, so there's a lot of stuff considered to be trip-hop that I really like, and at least as much that I do not. So I can see how with a wide variety of listeners tagging a multitude of tracks as trip-hop, that I'm bound to be offered some that I don't care for. In addition, I find that a lot of tags get applied here on Last.fm in error -- for any number of reasons. Likely due most often to users not fully comprehending genre classifications or attributes. 'Ambient' has to be the tag I see used incorrectly the most often which I think fits this category. I also suspect that a lot of unintentional errors are caused by the way the client is configured to auto-match on tags already applied by other users rather than your own. To wrap up this book, I'm glad to have found this tool and enjoyed its use -- I'll probably do it at least once more (hoping for even better results). I did find some great tracks by artists I already knew, and some that I did not, and am thankful for that discovery. In the interim, I've also been streaming my 'loved tracks', skipping ones that already have a lot of plays to get some that don't a little higher on the list -- strange the way this machine will push some tracks and flat ignore others, isn't it?

    14 mai 2009, 5h08m
  • bluejaydandy

    who this was exactly what me and a freind were talking about how to get the perfectly mood tuned playlist with out knoying it , how can i get this list? its so perfect i want krutrip! v aprroiate 4 whats happening in games

    12 sept. 2009, 22h23m
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