Ya'll kidding right ? The production is ProTooled to hell and listening to vocalist hurts my vocal folds. Not to say that they don't know their instruments, but oh dog those two things should be fixed. Production doesn't need to be like Nattens Madrigaal to be 'shitty production', Vultures is good example of whoring the modern production wrong. Little dirt in there and some rawness and it is already miles better.