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- Clauditacitrica a dit :...
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- 2 nov. 2011, 14h36m
Moral, absolutely...

[quote][b][user]Clauditacitrica[/user][/b] a dit : Moral, absolutely...[/quote]

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- Andvaka a dit :...
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- 5 nov. 2011, 12h39m
Moral.

Can you really ask what reason Pythagoras had for abstaining from flesh? For my part I rather wonder both by what accident and in what state of soul or mind the first man did so, touched his mouth to gore and brought his lips to the flesh of a dead creature, he who set forth tables of dead, stale bodies and ventured to call food and nourishment the parts that had a little before bellowed and cried, moved and lived. How could his eyes endure the slaughter when throats were slit and hides flayed and limbs torn from limb? How could his nose endure the stench? How was it that the pollution did not turn away his taste, which made contact with the sores of others and sucked juices and serums from mortal wounds? … It is certainly not lions and wolves that we eat out of self-defense; on the contrary, we ignore these and slaughter harmless, tame creatures without stings or teeth to harm us, creatures that, I swear, Nature appears to have produced for the sake of their beauty and grace. But nothing abashed us, not the flower-like like tinting of the flesh, not the persuasiveness of the harmonious voice, not the cleanliness of their habits or the unusual intelligence that may be found in the poor wretches. No, for the sake of a little flesh we deprive them of sun, of light, of the duration of life to which they are entitled by birth and being. - Plutarch

[quote][b][user]Andvaka[/user][/b] a dit : Moral. [i]Can you really ask what reason Pythagoras had for abstaining from flesh? For my part I rather wonder both by what accident and in what state of soul or mind the first man did so, touched his mouth to gore and brought his lips to the flesh of a dead creature, he who set forth tables of dead, stale bodies and ventured to call food and nourishment the parts that had a little before bellowed and cried, moved and lived. How could his eyes endure the slaughter when throats were slit and hides flayed and limbs torn from limb? How could his nose endure the stench? How was it that the pollution did not turn away his taste, which made contact with the sores of others and sucked juices and serums from mortal wounds? … It is certainly not lions and wolves that we eat out of self-defense; on the contrary, we ignore these and slaughter harmless, tame creatures without stings or teeth to harm us, creatures that, I swear, Nature appears to have produced for the sake of their beauty and grace. But nothing abashed us, not the flower-like like tinting of the flesh, not the persuasiveness of the harmonious voice, not the cleanliness of their habits or the unusual intelligence that may be found in the poor wretches. No, for the sake of a little flesh we deprive them of sun, of light, of the duration of life to which they are entitled by birth and being.[/i] - Plutarch[/quote]

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- recettemaite a dit :...
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- 17 nov. 2011, 7h12m
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Let us stand for our RIGHTS, we global people of "below" ! : in the 3 Americas, in Asia, in Australia, in Africa, & in Europe.

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- off_topic a dit :...
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- 18 nov. 2011, 2h07m
Moral

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- andyrabe a dit :...
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- 18 nov. 2011, 5h17m
moral. health benefits are just a bonus

[quote][b][user]andyrabe[/user][/b] a dit : moral. health benefits are just a bonus[/quote]

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- [Utilisateur supprimé] a dit :...
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- 24 nov. 2011, 22h15m
I do it for the lulz.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] a dit : I do it for the lulz.[/quote]

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- take-my-pillow a dit :...
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- 5 fév. 2012, 16h14m
moral, of course

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[quote][b][user]take-my-pillow[/user][/b] a dit : moral, of course[/quote]

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- Vamprilla1607 a dit :...
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- 7 fév. 2012, 1h23m
It was moral reasons that led me to go Vegan. Over time it became about the health benefits, environmental impact and I even discovered spiritual reasons that are connected to veganism.

All have helped in being important reminders as to why I am Vegan and will stay Vegan both in diet and lifestyle.

[quote][b][user]Vamprilla1607[/user][/b] a dit : It was moral reasons that led me to go Vegan. Over time it became about the health benefits, environmental impact and I even discovered spiritual reasons that are connected to veganism. All have helped in being important reminders as to why I am Vegan and will stay Vegan both in diet and lifestyle.[/quote]

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- mrsqrrl a dit :...
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- 7 fév. 2012, 10h27m
I do it for the lulz. [2]

[quote][b][user]mrsqrrl[/user][/b] a dit : I do it for the lulz. [2][/quote]

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- Harliquensfly a dit :...
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- 15 fév. 2012, 17h05m
Neither. Morality doesn't exist and so it's never a moral decision. People only do it because it makes them feel happier not causing others pain and suffering.

Vegetarianism is only ever a selfish decision, done to make one feel happier about the effect they're having in the world. I'm not saying that's a bad thing (I'm vegetarian), but if we're really honest with ourselves, it's true.

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[quote][b][user]Harliquensfly[/user][/b] a dit : Neither. Morality doesn't exist and so it's never a moral decision. People only do it because it makes them feel happier not causing others pain and suffering. Vegetarianism is only ever a selfish decision, done to make one feel happier about the effect they're having in the world. I'm not saying that's a bad thing (I'm vegetarian), but if we're really honest with ourselves, it's true.[/quote]

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- sspatula a dit :...
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- 16 fév. 2012, 1h19m
I refused to eat meat as a little child simply because I thought that it's unfair to kill helpless and innocent creatures. To me, they were just like people. (Only cuter and nicer...)

Growing up eating bread with ketchup at birthday parties and being teased never made me reconsider because the many benefits kept unfolding as I got older. I'm 19 years old now, very healthy and educated in the environmental issues. I have studied the philosophical theories on all things moral. But the real reason I still do it is exactly the same as when I was learning to read - I consider animals as equal to humans.

So I'd say moral or even emotional reasons.

[quote][b][user]sspatula[/user][/b] a dit : I refused to eat meat as a little child simply because I thought that it's unfair to kill helpless and innocent creatures. To me, they were just like people. (Only cuter and nicer...) Growing up eating bread with ketchup at birthday parties and being teased never made me reconsider because the many benefits kept unfolding as I got older. I'm 19 years old now, very healthy and educated in the environmental issues. I have studied the philosophical theories on all things moral. But the real reason I still do it is exactly the same as when I was learning to read - I consider animals as equal to humans. So I'd say moral or even emotional reasons.[/quote]

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- stooffl a dit :...
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- 19 fév. 2012, 20h14m
moral.
health benefits strengthen my decision... best decision, of course ;)

[quote][b][user]stooffl[/user][/b] a dit : moral. health benefits strengthen my decision... best decision, of course ;)[/quote]

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- Puptupuna a dit :...
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- 22 fév. 2012, 20h07m
Neither, because I don't 'believe' in morality, and especially soy is actually bad for your health. But why am I a vegetarian? I couldn't kill a animal, that's for sure but maybe just because my diet makes me feel good. So I guess I'm a vegetarian purely for egoistic (or hedoistic) reasons.

[quote][b][user]Puptupuna[/user][/b] a dit : Neither, because I don't 'believe' in morality, and especially soy is actually bad for your health. But why am I a vegetarian? I couldn't kill a animal, that's for sure but maybe just because my diet makes me feel good. So I guess I'm a vegetarian purely for egoistic (or hedoistic) reasons. [/quote]

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- dth3tr a dit :...
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- 28 fév. 2012, 18h13m
Soy is bad for your health? Has this crap fabrication really propagated itself overseas, too? I thought it was just our dairy lobby pouring millions into keeping us stupid.

Not that it would matter either way, as one can maintain a perfectly nutritional veg diet without soy.

[quote][b][user]dth3tr[/user][/b] a dit : Soy is bad for your health? Has this crap fabrication really propagated itself overseas, too? I thought it was just our dairy lobby pouring millions into keeping us stupid. Not that it would matter either way, as one can maintain a perfectly nutritional veg diet without soy.[/quote]

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- JCCiace a dit :...
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- 1 mars 2012, 11h07m
moral

[quote][b][user]JCCiace[/user][/b] a dit : moral[/quote]

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- astronomers a dit :...
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- 4 mars 2012, 6h40m
Neither, really. I went vegetarian in junior high half because I hated the texture of meat and wanted a reason to never have to eat it again, and half because the thought of eating flesh was just weird (not necessarily immoral, but more of a "wtf why are you eating that" thing). When I went vegan several months ago, it was definitely for moral reasons, and now I'm still vegan because I still just think it's weird & unnecessary to use/consume animal products. I never used to give a damn about my health (I am still working to get rid of my fat carbatarian butt), but it's kind of an awesome added benefit now.

[quote][b][user]astronomers[/user][/b] a dit : Neither, really. I went vegetarian in junior high half because I hated the texture of meat and wanted a reason to never have to eat it again, and half because the thought of eating flesh was just weird (not necessarily immoral, but more of a "wtf why are you eating that" thing). When I went vegan several months ago, it was definitely for moral reasons, and now I'm still vegan because I still just think it's weird & unnecessary to use/consume animal products. I never used to give a damn about my health (I am still working to get rid of my fat carbatarian butt), but it's kind of an awesome added benefit now.[/quote]

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- Rhyme79 a dit :...
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- 9 mars 2012, 17h41m
I became vegetarian for entirely moral reasons. I don't think any issues of health crossed my mind at all when I decided to change my diet.

My karma ran over your dogma.
You what?

[quote][b][user]Rhyme79[/user][/b] a dit : I became vegetarian for entirely moral reasons. I don't think any issues of health crossed my mind at all when I decided to change my diet.[/quote]

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- iamcasieee a dit :...
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- 11 mars 2012, 23h45m
Moral! Vegan for the animals <3
Good health and nutrition is just a plus.

[quote][b][user]iamcasieee[/user][/b] a dit : Moral! Vegan for the animals <3 Good health and nutrition is just a plus.[/quote]

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- celestialynx a dit :...
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- 22 mars 2012, 10h54m
Moral.

[quote][b][user]celestialynx[/user][/b] a dit : Moral.[/quote]

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- OccultRock a dit :...
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- 29 mai 2012, 12h48m
Moral, overwhelmingly, but health is still important.

[quote][b][user]OccultRock[/user][/b] a dit : Moral, overwhelmingly, but health is still important.[/quote]

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- urlkaavis a dit :...
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- 30 mai 2012, 8h48m
Only moral!

beer and pot!

[quote][b][user]urlkaavis[/user][/b] a dit : Only moral! [/quote]

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