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How strict are you in your eating habits?

 
    • Rhyme79 a dit :...
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    • 23 sept. 2011, 13h21m

    How strict are you in your eating habits?

    I thought it would be interesting to see how strict people are in their vegetarianism/ veganism.

    I think I read someone here is a vegan but has also chosen to consume free range eggs as he feels that there is no moral issue there, I can understand that.

    Do you just eat fish, or avoid all products that contain animal based gelatine or rennet?

    So what do you eat and/or avoid and why?

    I'll start... I avoid all meat in any form, so I avoid everything with any animal based ingredients, so some gummy sweets,some cheeses etc. I am vegetarian for moral reasons so I do my best to avoid all products with any form of dead animal in them.

    But I DO eat free-range eggs and vegetarian cheese, though most milk I consume is of the soya variety. Also when I can, I try to buy organic and/or local products, I live in Somerset so there's lots of really good local produce all over the place.


    Now you.... :)

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  • Re: How strict are you in your eating habits?

    Rhyme79 said:

    I think I read someone here is a vegan but has also chosen to consume free range eggs as he feels that there is no moral issue there, I can understand that.


    It's fine if he wants to do that, but he surely can't consider himself a vegan while he eats eggs. It's like people saying they're vegetarian because they only eat meat once a month or something.

    Anyway. I'm currently in the transition between vegetarian and vegan. Over the past week or two I've consumed milk and dairy a couple of times, but once I've settled into it and learned how to make a few good meals etc I'll be ready to cut them out completely and consider myself a vegan. I've never been the best at paying attention to my diet or making the effort to cook for myself so I've decided I'm far more likely to stick with veganism successfully if I give myself this bit of flexibility for a little while. Should be there very soon though, exciting!

  • I avoid EVERYTHING that has a dead animal in it. I eat cage-free vegetarian-fed hen eggs and I eat cheese as long as it's rennet-free. I usually don't drink milk, but when I do, it's organic. So yeah, absolutely nothing with a dead animal. Not just food, but clothes, makeup, soap, etc. I tried going vegan but I can't deny the power of cheese :D

    • Rhyme79 a dit :...
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    • 26 sept. 2011, 13h11m
    I tried going vegan but I can't deny the power of cheese :D

    Yeah there is definitely a cheese issue!

    Have you tried any of the cheese substitutes that are available? I haven't personally, but intend to at some point.

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  • Rhyme79 sagte:
    I tried going vegan but I can't deny the power of cheese :D
    Yeah there is definitely a cheese issue!

    Have you tried any of the cheese substitutes that are available? I haven't personally, but intend to at some point.

    That cheese issue is a long-known obvious fact. The casomorphins from dairy products effectuate a reaction in the opiate receptors in your heads. So cutting milk and cheese from your diet is like going cold turkey because your bodies are busy with detoxification from all the opioids.
    No 'cheese substitutes' will replace those effects.

    Still, cutting dairy and eggs is a considerate, kind-hearted and praiseworthy decision.
    There may be no 'dead animal' INSIDE those (which can therefore be easily blinded out) but both 'products' involve/necessitate millions upon millions of dead male animals because they don't give milk and don't lay eggs and are completely useless to these industries and will end up as veal (calf meat) and cat food. The differences between smaller organic and big conventional producers in the 'handling' of those males are tangent to zero.

    • Bathshebaa a dit :...
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    • 27 sept. 2011, 21h05m
    I'm extremely strict in my veganism as I exclude all animal products no matter how removed, and I basically only eat local organic food from the farmers market (non organic food causes a lot of collateral damage to the ecosystem and it directly murders billions of insects). On the egg issue for me, even if I cared for and housed a hen and treated her extremely well I wouldn't eat the eggs for the simple reason that they aren't mine to take.

    If you're looking for a yummy cheese alternative the VERY best out there is Daiya and it melts and stretches too (for fans of nachos and pizza) it not only tastes just like good dairy cheese but it behaves the same in recipes. I've made quiche with it before and it turned out perfectly :)

    • Rhyme79 a dit :...
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    • 28 sept. 2011, 12h25m
    Bathshebaa said:
    On the egg issue for me, even if I cared for and housed a hen and treated her extremely well I wouldn't eat the eggs for the simple reason that they aren't mine to take.


    I really like your way of thinking :)

    Bathshebaa said:If you're looking for a yummy cheese alternative the VERY best out there is Daiya and it melts and stretches too (for fans of nachos and pizza) it not only tastes just like good dairy cheese but it behaves the same in recipes. I've made quiche with it before and it turned out perfectly :)

    Also, thanks for this (non)cheese tip! I will keep an eye out for this, hopefully I'll be able to find some.

    Ahh, I just Googled daiya... apparently not available in the UK ... yet!

    http://veganlounge.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=331

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    • SGDminea a dit :...
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    • 29 sept. 2011, 6h11m
    I'm a vegan and I avoid sweets with gelatin and animal origin E-codes. So basicly, no candy for me :D But, I do use honey as a sweetener for tea. I've been thinking about giving that up, but it is the only non-vegan thing in my diet.

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  • I'm vegetarian. Tried veganism and was really passionate but i didn't really got lucky because i lost weight and i'm thin enough for my taste. (;

    I didn't have the money and/or time for the right products and preparation.

    Now on with what i'm doing these days: I avoid meat of all animals (Fish as well ofc! Dunno how one can think it's okay to be speciesist there..) and gelatine and cheese with rennet from calves. Also i avoid buying drinks that were "cleaned" with gelatine (like "Fanta" and the other clear juices).
    I also don't buy milk and eggs but cheese like i mentioned and some food that contains eggs and milk like for example frozen pizza with cheese or pancakes with eggs, joghurt and so on.

    Also for me it's difficult to distance for example from McDonald's as they have "McCafe" with soy milk!
    So for me at home i only drink soy milk and have a vegan "margarine".

    I could write very much about this as you see.

    Cause i'm also trying to be as nice as i can to all animals and not making differences like "insects are ugly" or whatever like some ppl do.
    I don't like most ppl having animals in their home cause they behave like the animals were dumb.. That is disrespectful i find.
    Many vegans i got to know had domestic animals and i didn't find that so nice in some cases.
    But yeah. I'm also trying to give my environment a good feeling when thinking of vegetarians and also vegans. (Most) vegans are no radical sickos.

    I tolerate what my friends eat and do - as long as i can't do something against it. Like someone beating their dog or so, then i'd act.
    I don't like ppl horseback riding because most of them don't relate with the animal and hate it for its reactions when being afraid and hitting a person of their back then and so on.

    It's all complicated and fluent i guess. :D
    All in all i must say i don't think it's about eating. It's about the whole life!
    My cosmetics, soaps and all cleaning products and clothes, shoes i also buy mostly vegan(like 98%) (=

    So we live in some celler apartment and have spider trouble for months now and most spiders i tolerate in the rooms but these are really big and fast and are everywhere (food for example) so i can't take every spider out of my house because there are like 5 spiders like every night coming into the house or already being there. I mostly kill them.. But i want to move out here anyways so i hope they can figure this out in another way.

    Have you experienced problems like that where you had to do things you don't like? I'm interested in this because i'm not myself when doing this..

  • I'm vegetarian and I don't consume anything with dead animals in it. I drink soy-milk and eat a vegan butter.

    I do however eat free-range eggs sometimes, although not often. Also i eat cheese but it's rennet-free though. I would eat veg cheese if I could find any good substitute here in Sweden. I haven't so far though and i live in a pretty small town too so... wish daiya would sell their products here but they don't. Also chocolate is the worst thing, would have to get some major inspiration to stop eating it ^^.

  • I was vegan for about 6 months, around a year and a half ago. My diet is still more or less vegan, but has a lot more room for flexibility than before.

    I eat some products which contain milk/eggs on occasion, but these are quite limited (e.g. Quorn products for convenience). I wouldn't make myself something from scratch containing any milk/eggs. If I'm out somewhere and need food, I'll go for a vegetarian option containing as little milk/egg as possible if there's no vegan option available (this does not happen very often). I use soya milk, and don't bother with cheese substitutes.

    I do not see much problem with occasional consumption of ethically and sustainably sourced meat/fish (to the greatest extent that this is possible, rather than simply the labels proclaiming almost every product on the shelves to meet these criteria) e.g. if I were to pick up something from a local farmers market for dinner once a month. I have no desire to do this though, as I do not miss anything which I have decided to avoid eating.

    Chocolate is easy...dark chocolate is nicer than milk chocolate once you become accustomed to it, and plenty of it is vegan.

    I kill spiders if they're hard to remove and leaving them will cause me to have a sleepless night/undergo a significant level of nervousness/fear. I don't feel guilty or contradictory in doing so.

  • Rhyme79 said:
    Bathshebaa said:
    On the egg issue for me, even if I cared for and housed a hen and treated her extremely well I wouldn't eat the eggs for the simple reason that they aren't mine to take.


    I really like your way of thinking :)

    Bathshebaa said:If you're looking for a yummy cheese alternative the VERY best out there is Daiya and it melts and stretches too (for fans of nachos and pizza) it not only tastes just like good dairy cheese but it behaves the same in recipes. I've made quiche with it before and it turned out perfectly :)

    Also, thanks for this (non)cheese tip! I will keep an eye out for this, hopefully I'll be able to find some.

    Ahh, I just Googled daiya... apparently not available in the UK ... yet!

    http://veganlounge.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=331


    That's a shame it isn't available in the uk! Well it's fairly new so give it time :)
    And thanks I'm glad you agree with me on those points!

  • -andoreasu- said:
    I'm vegetarian and I don't consume anything with dead animals in it. I drink soy-milk and eat a vegan butter.

    I do however eat free-range eggs sometimes, although not often. Also i eat cheese but it's rennet-free though. I would eat veg cheese if I could find any good substitute here in Sweden. I haven't so far though and i live in a pretty small town too so... wish daiya would sell their products here but they don't. Also chocolate is the worst thing, would have to get some major inspiration to stop eating it ^^.


    I eat LOADS of vegan chocolate, I' would probably die if I didn't as my blood is 50% cocoa by now >__>

    anywho, this is a swiss brand available in most of europe:

    http://vegusto.com/index-en.html

    I had their "meats" pates and "cheeses" when I was in paris. It's all fantastic! Maybe you can find it in sweden?

  • To all the egg-eaters on this board:
    Eating eggs is worse than eating meat! ...
    (At least) If you're avoiding meat for moral/conscience reasons than you're lying to yourself very, very hard if you think that eggs are a less-killing alternative.
    Looking on the number of animals that get killed (for the average consume) eggs are way worse than the majority of meat.
    The average consume of beef (about 10 - 15 kg) kills 1 cow (200 kg) every 15 - 20 years.
    The average consume of pork (about 30 - 50 kg) kills 1 pig (65 kg) every year and a half.
    The average consume of eggs (about 200 eggs) kills 1 to 2 chickens (about 200 eggs + the male chick) every year.

    So flexitarians who eat meat only occasionally and avoid dairy (products) and eggs are the cause of less suffering than most vegetarians. Keep that in mind if you're judging one of them and if you're saying that your diet is based on morals... 'cause it's just NOT if you know about those facts.

    Also.... there is no such thing as the RIGHT (vegan) PRODUCTS and there is no such circumstance in the Western world as to not be able to get your hands on them/to not have them available around your place.
    The essence of the vegan diet is fruits, vegetables, grains and fats/oils + to combine these in a digestion supporting way:

    (whole) grains + beans, lentils, peas, sprouts, seeds
    nuts + fruits + salads

    It's as easy as that! All these vegan convenience and faux PRODUCTS are just the icing on the cake and with the shitload of online shops out there it couldn't be easier to get them to the Australian Outback, Siberia, the Midwest or wherever you live.

    SGDminea sagte:
    I'm a vegan and I avoid sweets with gelatin and animal origin E-codes. So basicly, no candy for me :D But, I do use honey as a sweetener for tea. I've been thinking about giving that up, but it is the only non-vegan thing in my diet.

    You can cook honey yourself ;) just google 'dandelion honey'. It works with a lot of other blossoms as well. Some shops also offer vegan honey. Or you could use agave/rice syrup instead.
    Very few organic beekeepers do not kill the drones so, if you're not a political veg/antispeciesist, their honey could be to your liking.

    spiegelaugen sagte:
    So we live in some celler apartment and have spider trouble for months now and most spiders i tolerate in the rooms but these are really big and fast and are everywhere (food for example) so i can't take every spider out of my house because there are like 5 spiders like every night coming into the house or already being there. I mostly kill them.. But i want to move out here anyways so i hope they can figure this out in another way.

    Why don't you just apply fly screens/grids (or whatever they're called) to the windows? O_o

    • tschuelie a dit :...
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    • 3 oct. 2011, 15h44m
    I'm a vegetarian so I don't eat any dead animals(including fish) and I don't eat anything with gelatin in it.. But i do drink milk and eat vegetarian milk products and I try eating eggs from "happy chicken", as some people call free-land chicken around here.
    I don't buy or wear leather shoes or other products made of leather, which is driving everybody who wants to buy shoes with me mad. And I only wear vegan make-up that wasn't tested on animals.

  • alles_ist_FNORD sagte:

    spiegelaugen sagte:
    So we live in some celler apartment and have spider trouble for months now and most spiders i tolerate in the rooms but these are really big and fast and are everywhere (food for example) so i can't take every spider out of my house because there are like 5 spiders like every night coming into the house or already being there. I mostly kill them.. But i want to move out here anyways so i hope they can figure this out in another way.

    Why don't you just apply fly screens/grids (or whatever they're called) to the windows? O_o


    Well.. *sighs* I don't really care about the apartment and i'm going to school at the moment so.. I can't afford ANYTHING to make the situation better and as i said i don't really care for this cellar, so i'd spend money and effort for no one and would end up moving out in some months or so.. It's a tricky situation..

    Plus these are windows of the size of like 2 metres x 1,3 metres or so! ;D

  • I still eat dairy, but not eggs, not even free-range ones. I don't really drink actual milk though, just soy or almond milk. The only dairy I really consume is cheese & yogurt. I've gone through periods where I was vegan, but have gone back to eating dairy for various reasons.

    • yvonnetb a dit :...
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    • 7 oct. 2011, 19h27m
    No meat whatsoever.
    Usually consume soy milk-products, apart from coffee creamer.
    Very exeptionally organic dairy products, eggs or vegetarian cheese.

    Plus, I only use animal testing free cosmetics.

    • SGDminea a dit :...
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    • 18 oct. 2011, 8h30m
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    Thanks for the tip! We have a rather good vegan-eco-hippie store in my town and I believe they might even have this vegan honey you mentioned.
    I used to think I could forgive myself consuming dairy or eggs when eating out, since not many restaurants have vegan items on their menu. But when I came to think about it, it just didn't feel right. Now I always go through the trouble and alter the vegetarian dishes until they are vegan with the waiters before ordering. This way I'm also sending a message to the restaurant; there is a demand for vegan food and they should supply.

    Tonzura koite!
  • i've been vegetarian for five or so years and have been on and off vegan for just as long

    the longest stretch of veganism for me was about half a year, but i realized that it wasn't really working out for me as a full time thing.

    the only non-vegan thing i eat on a constant basis is cheese. i also eat products that contain milk ingredients, but i never drink milk itself. i avoid gelatin and i do my best to avoid eggs as well.

    i'm obviously not super strict, but i just do my best to make the most ethical decisions at every opportunity. i guess i kind of follow peter singer's model in that way.

    • OccultRock a dit :...
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    • 29 mai 2012, 12h47m
    I am a strict vegan. I also avoid soy, wheat and added oil and sugar. However, I do eat tofu every once in awhile and love Dave's Bread. Also, I sometimes eat a little sugar and oil if I go to a restaurant or buy things like pickles, curry paste or ready-made sauces. I mostly eat whole foods and am nearly a fruitarian but eat raw foods that are not fruits as well as cooked foods. However, the majority of my diet is raw fruit. Also, during the summer, I have to eat what my job provides me and while it's vegan, it's a lot of prepackaged food. Strict, but not a purist.

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