Group Tag Radio Construction

Would you like to see our Group Tag Radio begin to work?

There are a couple of ways you can help to make it happen.

I've tagged quite a lot of stuff with this tag already. You can listen to my personal version of this tag's radio anytime and can always see what all is on the list as well.

Why do I need your help?

In addition to all the suggestions that have been made here, I've also perused all of your profiles and journals and combed a few other locations looking for additional material to add. I'm sure I've added some things whether artist, album or track that just don't belong - and have surely missed adding some that do qualify as well.

You can continue to suggest artists and tracks which have not already been suggested by posting them in the threads already established for that purpose.

You can post in this thread items which you believe are incorrectly tagged for this group's tag. KtM407 will see to it that you are not scolded too harshly if someone disagrees with you either way, so use your judgement and feel free to post. :-)

The other reason is that one result of new spam prevention measures in place is that multiple users need to use the same tag on several of the same items before the global tag is activated and becomes available for play.

You may be asking yourself, "How can I help with building the global Group Tag Radio?".

Two ways - one faster while the other is likely to result in a more accurate tag radio station. Which method you choose is entirely up to you, but it would really help for you to be familiar with the material in question if you decide to go with the faster more direct method.

The faster method is to visit my tag for this group, pull up each item and hit the item with the same tag.

The slower but more accurate method is to actually listen to my personal tag radio (you must already have the last.fm player installed) and only tag each track after having auditioned the track in the last.fm player. As you may have already realized, this method offers you the bonus of actually allowing you to listen to a portion of what will be on the group tag radio station while you help to build global version!

The tag to use is:
_{instrumental music that makes you feel-group tag radio}

Be certain you copy and paste the tag in it's entirety.

Give it a try - it appears to be functional for all users now.

Either we finally got enough tagged, or whatever process the last.fm server has to execute for a global tag to become functional has finally caught up with us.

Give it a whirl and enjoy some Instrumental music that makes you feel* global tag radio.

_{* - note that you must already have the last.fm player installed for this link to function correctly.}

Well that would be me, and I've nixed the offending tag.

It's one of the ones I picked up lurking through this group's member's journals a while ago. A member had refered to them as instrumental. That and I was confused by the "instrumental" and "instrumental rock" tags already there in the artist's tag cloud. ;-)

Gotta be more careful I guess.

Post up if others such as that are discovered and I'll see to it they're removed if originating from my tag set.

Yup. Both of those support the aforementioned suggestion of tagging individual tracks instead of whole albums/artists.

I dunno where to ad this but someone added the track Blood and it really breaks the mood. Nice instrumental music floating thru my speakers then this rap then back to instrumental.

I was just reading through this thread and I noticed this:
The other reason is that one result of new spam prevention measures in place is that multiple users need to use the same tag on several of the same items before the global tag is activated and becomes available for play.
Is that really true? If anyone wants to look at my tags and re-tag the ones you personally approve or all of them when you're bored, that might be helpful. When I'm bored I'll re-tag someone else's, but only what I know for certain fits (or can verify it) because tagging stuff I wasn't 100% sure of has gotten me into trouble in the past. I'm careful now. ;) It's too bad I think they only display so many tags and the older ones get bumped off the list though, because some of my earlier tags were good.

I listen to this station a lot now. It's good.

^ That would make sense if they did that. I'm sure there are people out there tagging Slipknot as country for fun. ;)

They really need to let us see who tagged what what too though. If I knew who was tagging stuff badly for our station, I would just contact them directly.

I was looking at the tags and saw someone tagged Mogwai for the instrumental station, and I know Mogwai has songs with vocals. To serve as a reminder to all taggers:

Important note to people tagging for the station:
You can't tag any entire artists that have songs with vocals. Mogwai, for example, is 90% instrumental but does have songs with vocals. Tagging the artist as a whole will let those songs be played. You have to tag individual songs or albums that you know are vocal-free. Whoever has been tagging stuff, re-check your tags and make sure you didn't make any tags that can let vocal stuff slip through. Please.

(I really recommend listening to it first or somehow being certain its instrumental. Some people describe stuff inaccurately in passing and that can't be used as a reliable source, as I've learned!)


Thanks! Check this thread periodically for bad tag reports. If you make a bad tag, don't fret. Just go to the track and erase the tag you made. :)

I really want to help tag for this station, but I have a question first. Do we want to exclude ALL vocals, as in, humming and la la la'ing, or just lyric vocals? I think it's a shame to have some amazing songs slip through just because somebody is using a voice to add another harmony in the music.

I think that's what you want to stay away from, but just checking.

Jaga Jazzist's best songs have vocals and I would hate to keep the magical goodness away from my fellow "instrumental music that makes you feel-group tag radio" listeners.

Adrian's always got a spare opinion or two lying around somewhere. ;-)

I agree that the non-lyrical human-voice-as-instruments tracks fit with the concept of the group/station... as long as they're not the dominant instrument. Gregorian chants for instance are probably great for a chant station, but not so great for an instrumental station.

I prefer to remain in my bubble as much as possible?

Personally I'd ban all the static, clicks, whirrs, chkkrs etc, cuz they're in no way musical to me. But I realize others here like them for their own reasons and believe them to fit. I simply 'X' them out of my life forever with the 'ban this song' function of the last.fm player since I don't ever care to hear the static (otherwise I'd listen to more FM radio - slightly off station perhaps).

But because that doesn't work for tracks that you might want to hear, just not in a purely instrumental mood; the best action to take when in doubt is to leave them out.

Just want to add KtM407, re: your Bad Tags post above; that there is likely to be some albums by these artist which are tagged, and perhaps not just the artist - so we should all review our own tag set and remove the tag from both artist and album where we have it, replacing it only on the tracks which we know to fit with the vibe (or bubble as it whirr(?))

I'm likely the culprit behind Apocalyptica as I've not yet been exposed to any of their tracks which contain singing, and the two albums of theirs which I possess I'd not really thought of as classical - I'll go check now :)

(edit) Oh well, apparently I'm not the guilty party this time as according to my search I've nothing Apocalyptica tagged with this tag.

sorry, apocalyptica was I. But i wouldnt consider them classical. Vocals... maybe, i havent listened enough, but classical... no

Quoth KtM407:
Personally, I think that non-lyrics are fine... Like incoherent humming or anything else used as an instrument rather than a voice. I think La-la-las might depend. ;) The point of this station is just ambience and free thought... so we don't want vocal-driven music that is steering the listener in one definite direction or breaking the bubble their in. :p

On that note, how do y'all feel about Dead Can Dance? Much of Lisa Gerrard's voice work is used more instrumentally than for lyrics, and some of that "instrumental" use is in a dead language to boot.

To tie this in with the "spam proofing" thread, I tagged DCD's Cantara with the group tag, and if any of you agree, you can tag it too. If not, mine will apparently count as spam and won't get added to the group tag radio. I think I actually like how the anti-spam feature actually lets us build consensus...

--Eric

Two in a row:

Hexstatic - Rewind Intro
Quasimoto - Real Eyes

I think people stopped checking this thread. Bastards! In any event, that "ban" button is useful. So ban tracks that break the rules if you want the instrumental radio station to play right! I can't make people untag mistakes they've made, and I have no power to do anything about it -- or to even figure out who did it. Being a group leader isn't as glamorous as it may seem, folks.

On a different note, our radio station has quite a lot of music now. And most of it is pretty good! Yay!