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- cxssxndrxgxmxnx a dit :...
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- 28 juin 2009, 3h28m
Porn? Music? [¬¬]

"Y las nubes pelean con el viento y el espacio se vuelve un transparente campo de batalla."

[quote][b][user]cxssxndrxgxmxnx[/user][/b] a dit : Porn? Music? [¬¬][/quote]

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- litchking62 a dit :...
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- 28 juin 2009, 5h26m
last.fm

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- 28 juin 2009, 14h19m
Music. Definitely music. I just LOVE sitting and listening. Of course, I can always find other little things to do, but the music is what keeps me awake late at night.

[quote][b][user]Nameless_[/user][/b] a dit : Music. Definitely music. I just LOVE sitting and listening. Of course, I can always find other little things to do, but the music is what keeps me awake late at night. [/quote]

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- 28 juin 2009, 16h01m
Ihateboston said:
@singing_stars

The subconscious thing kind of freaks me out. I mean sometimes when I'm just experimenting with sounds to see what I might use later or then, I'll make some random adjustments and it usually turns into a melody/beat/chord whatever, and it'll usually be a very important part of the song. Now to what scares me: what if we are in fact 'programmed' in some way. I know we are already programmed kind of through genetics and things but this is at another level, I think. maybe my randomness is my subconsciousness' design. that would imply fate, would it not? I don't know about you but the idea that no matter what I do I'll go down a certain path is really frustrating to me. because hey, what can 'I' do about it? Oddly enough I'm reading the Wheel of Time series where fate is a really big factor.

About death, do you believe in God? I sure don't but I wish I could. That would be a much needed load off my mind but the idea is just laughable to me. At one point I believed that the universe constantly contracts and expands and thus we are born again every time but that would be like expecting to roll the same numbers on dice every time. I am kind of a believer in astrology though. It makes more sense to me that the stars and planets have an affect on us. Colors affect our moods and clutter causes us stress so it's not that hard to believe that a planet millions of times our size has some sort of influence.

To the love and hate thing.
aggression and greed are just natural in humans. In animals altogether, survival instincts. Jealousy comes from greed. I know I get jealous when I see an ex-girlfriend with a guy, even if I don't like her anymore. And I will just naturally dislike the guy.
It's easy to hate someone who uses their aggression and greed to harm you.
but hate doesn't always mean destroy and kill and love doesn't always mean together forever. it's very easy to forget that when discussing this. However I think the way we are taught love all our lives has conditioned us to think it's this mystical force. but it seems gifts = love. compliments = love. sex = love. the acts themselves don't equal love but I guess it's the thought behind them? but that's where greed comes in I suppose, and the ever present(though often consciously rejected) desire to pass on our genes. Is the thought process "I love this person and I'll do whatever it takes to be together"? with the thought behind the thought of "This person has attractive features I would like to pass to my children, I'll do whatever it takes to get the most favorable outcome"?
Have you ever been in love? I'm not going to lie, I was once. There was just a whole 'nother level of caring that I had no control over. Well, the spell ended and I eventually came to almost hate her. Though what I took from that was again, love may not always last forever. it's not magic, not permanent magic anyway.
My original statement on this subject was wrong, it's not just a concept but it's not divine. It's just another emotion perhaps that comes and goes. if all other 'normal' emotions have their effects and triggers then love must as well.

weird how a lot of things come back to genetics, nature, and subconscious.

The subconscious thing freaks me out too. If I think about it too much, I feel slightly sick, because as you said, it seems to take away from the mystical process of creation and originality. If we are in a way, programmed, then where does that leave us? Where is free will? It scares me that we can be influenced in this way. I want control over what I do. I don't want to be shoved along some path by something in my head. Thinking along those lines leads to some depressing shit. Wheel of Time eh? I've heard of it, but never really checked it out. Maybe I should...

I don't believe in a God that is a separate entity from ourselves. I don't believe in a God that is in any way human. Such a concept seems ridiculous to me actually. If you think about it, humans don't know anything - we can't even see beyond the few dimensions we experience. Who is to say that what we perceive is the ultimate reality? We all look at things through human goggles. That's why I think that there must be more than what we know. I find it hard to verbalise my idea of God. Maybe that just prove my point. To me, God is creation. I can't accept that nothingness could ever exist. Well, it can't exist really, because it's nothing (ugh, nothingness is something to think about for another time...) So, there has always been something. I'm rambling big time, but all these ideas are part of me grasping at straws about God.

I don't believe that we are reincarnated. However, I do believe that nothing that makes us can be destroyed. So our brief lives are infinitely important. We will never think again, but perhaps we contribute to the overall consciousness of the universe (these are just my random thoughts by the way.) I don't have any set of beliefs - this is just me mulling things over. I don't think that there is much point in having a full belief structure due to the things I said above about the limitations of humans.

Interesting what you say about astrology. I always say that I don't know what to think about it. In my mind, it's not too hard to believe that there is some kind of influence - after all, we are only insignificant little nothings in a huge universe. At the same time, I'm halfway sceptical. You could say that I'm open to thinking in both ways. Fascinating fact - there is a higher incidence of violent crime during the full moon (in the UK at least I think.)

Hmm, well it depends on what love you're talking about. I think that it's probably easier to find non-romantic love that works, because there isn't the complications of having the instinctual drive to pass on your genes *lol* I mean, my family treats me like crap sometimes, but despite everything, I still love them and would do a helluva lot for them when it comes down to it. Maybe it is all about survival, but I'd like to think that there are instances of love where things aren't merely transcient. Where things last without trying. I could be thinking wishfully, but hey, don't scupper my dreams just yet. Funny you should mention all this though. I don't think I've ever been in love. I have had many times of thinking that I might be. Only the other day, another one of these illusions broke.

Is this the right place to be posting all this? Oh well...I guess it is what keeps me awake I suppose. Sorta.

Stay gold, Ponyboy.

[quote][b][user]singing_stars[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]Ihateboston[/user][/b] said: @singing_stars The subconscious thing kind of freaks me out. I mean sometimes when I'm just experimenting with sounds to see what I might use later or then, I'll make some random adjustments and it usually turns into a melody/beat/chord whatever, and it'll usually be a very important part of the song. Now to what scares me: what if we are in fact 'programmed' in some way. I know we are already programmed kind of through genetics and things but this is at another level, I think. maybe my randomness is my subconsciousness' design. that would imply fate, would it not? I don't know about you but the idea that no matter what I do I'll go down a certain path is really frustrating to me. because hey, what can 'I' do about it? Oddly enough I'm reading the Wheel of Time series where fate is a really big factor. About death, do you believe in God? I sure don't but I wish I could. That would be a much needed load off my mind but the idea is just laughable to me. At one point I believed that the universe constantly contracts and expands and thus we are born again every time but that would be like expecting to roll the same numbers on dice every time. I am kind of a believer in astrology though. It makes more sense to me that the stars and planets have an affect on us. Colors affect our moods and clutter causes us stress so it's not that hard to believe that a planet millions of times our size has some sort of influence. To the love and hate thing. aggression and greed are just natural in humans. In animals altogether, survival instincts. Jealousy comes from greed. I know I get jealous when I see an ex-girlfriend with a guy, even if I don't like her anymore. And I will just naturally dislike the guy. It's easy to hate someone who uses their aggression and greed to harm you. but hate doesn't always mean destroy and kill and love doesn't always mean together forever. it's very easy to forget that when discussing this. However I think the way we are taught love all our lives has conditioned us to think it's this mystical force. but it seems gifts = love. compliments = love. sex = love. the acts themselves don't equal love but I guess it's the thought behind them? but that's where greed comes in I suppose, and the ever present(though often consciously rejected) desire to pass on our genes. Is the thought process "I love this person and I'll do whatever it takes to be together"? with the thought behind the thought of "This person has attractive features I would like to pass to my children, I'll do whatever it takes to get the most favorable outcome"? Have you ever been in love? I'm not going to lie, I was once. There was just a whole 'nother level of caring that I had no control over. Well, the spell ended and I eventually came to almost hate her. Though what I took from that was again, love may not always last forever. it's not magic, not permanent magic anyway. My original statement on this subject was wrong, it's not just a concept but it's not divine. It's just another emotion perhaps that comes and goes. if all other 'normal' emotions have their effects and triggers then love must as well. weird how a lot of things come back to genetics, nature, and subconscious. [/quote] The subconscious thing freaks me out too. If I think about it too much, I feel slightly sick, because as you said, it seems to take away from the mystical process of creation and originality. If we are in a way, programmed, then where does that leave us? Where is free will? It scares me that we can be influenced in this way. I want control over what I do. I don't want to be shoved along some path by something in my head. Thinking along those lines leads to some depressing shit. Wheel of Time eh? I've heard of it, but never really checked it out. Maybe I should... I don't believe in a God that is a separate entity from ourselves. I don't believe in a God that is in any way human. Such a concept seems ridiculous to me actually. If you think about it, humans don't know anything - we can't even see beyond the few dimensions we experience. Who is to say that what we perceive is the ultimate reality? We all look at things through human goggles. That's why I think that there must be more than what we know. I find it hard to verbalise my idea of God. Maybe that just prove my point. To me, God is creation. I can't accept that nothingness could ever exist. Well, it can't exist really, because it's nothing (ugh, nothingness is something to think about for another time...) So, there has always been something. I'm rambling big time, but all these ideas are part of me grasping at straws about God. I don't believe that we are reincarnated. However, I do believe that nothing that makes us can be destroyed. So our brief lives are infinitely important. We will never think again, but perhaps we contribute to the overall consciousness of the universe (these are just my random thoughts by the way.) I don't have any set of beliefs - this is just me mulling things over. I don't think that there is much point in having a full belief structure due to the things I said above about the limitations of humans. Interesting what you say about astrology. I always say that I don't know what to think about it. In my mind, it's not too hard to believe that there is some kind of influence - after all, we are only insignificant little nothings in a huge universe. At the same time, I'm halfway sceptical. You could say that I'm open to thinking in both ways. Fascinating fact - there is a higher incidence of violent crime during the full moon (in the UK at least I think.) Hmm, well it depends on what love you're talking about. I think that it's probably easier to find non-romantic love that works, because there isn't the complications of having the instinctual drive to pass on your genes *lol* I mean, my family treats me like crap sometimes, but despite everything, I still love them and would do a helluva lot for them when it comes down to it. Maybe it is all about survival, but I'd like to think that there are instances of love where things aren't merely transcient. Where things last without trying. I could be thinking wishfully, but hey, don't scupper my dreams just yet. Funny you should mention all this though. I don't think I've ever been in love. I have had many times of thinking that I might be. Only the other day, another one of these illusions broke. Is this the right place to be posting all this? Oh well...I guess it is what keeps me awake I suppose. Sorta.[/quote]

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- pillow_of_winds a dit :...
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- 29 juin 2009, 3h20m
usually, i do way too much thinking at night.

today, is my new computer.

i really hope this won't last.

[quote][b][user]pillow_of_winds[/user][/b] a dit : usually, i do way too much thinking at night. today, is my new computer. i really hope this won't last.[/quote]

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- 29 juin 2009, 7h25m
mUSiC......!

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- LiselX a dit :...
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- 29 juin 2009, 16h41m
FelFitzgerald sagte:
Well, I spend all day surfing the internet and not getting anything done. Come bedtime, I still have homework, guitar practice and my 5 pages of writing to do. I'm too stubborn to not do them, so I stay up late. If I didn't, they'd never get done.

So procrastination, I guess.

just like me

[quote][b][user]LiselX[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]FelFitzgerald[/user][/b] sagte: Well, I spend all day surfing the internet and not getting anything done. Come bedtime, I still have homework, guitar practice and my 5 pages of writing to do. I'm too stubborn to not do them, so I stay up late. If I didn't, they'd never get done. So procrastination, I guess.[/quote] just like me [/quote]

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- EddyZeppelin a dit :...
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- 29 juin 2009, 20h30m
Just the natural tendency to just want to keep the day (or night) going. I'm either in the mood to surf the web, listen to music, play on my 360...

just not really sleep just yet:P.

[quote][b][user]EddyZeppelin[/user][/b] a dit : Just the natural tendency to just want to keep the day (or night) going. I'm either in the mood to surf the web, listen to music, play on my 360... just not really sleep [i]just[/i] yet:P. [/quote]

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- kinemortophobia a dit :...
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- 30 juin 2009, 16h44m
Once you spawn, you rarely have any decent time for yourself. So, once the mini beasts have been sent to their rooms for their evil slumber, I love the quiet - well it's not quiet for long cos I put on some tunes lol or play the sims 3 - and before you know it, my boyfriend is telling me off for being up at 3am arsing around... and I'm a zombie all day long... lather, rinse, and repeat for the next day.....

[quote][b][user]kinemortophobia[/user][/b] a dit : Once you spawn, you rarely have any decent time for yourself. So, once the mini beasts have been sent to their rooms for their evil slumber, I love the quiet - well it's not quiet for long cos I put on some tunes lol or play the sims 3 - and before you know it, my boyfriend is telling me off for being up at 3am arsing around... and I'm a zombie all day long... lather, rinse, and repeat for the next day.....[/quote]

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- Renalein a dit :...
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- 30 juin 2009, 18h27m
In the first place it's watching TV.. I can't sit in front of the computer all night long because my parents sleep at the room next door and they would hear all the noise. (No, I have no headset.) Poor me. Secondly the Play Station 2 is my weakness. I definitely play too much at night. <3

[quote][b][user]Renalein[/user][/b] a dit : In the first place it's watching TV.. I can't sit in front of the computer all night long because my parents sleep at the room next door and they would hear all the noise. (No, I have no headset.) Poor me. Secondly the Play Station 2 is my weakness. I definitely play too much at night. <3[/quote]

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- kahbee a dit :...
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- 30 juin 2009, 19h01m
Apathy.

[quote][b][user]kahbee[/user][/b] a dit : Apathy.[/quote]

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Amphetamine

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- TarynKD a dit :...
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- 1 jui. 2009, 5h39m
The internet. I only stop because I use it on my ipod touch which only has like, 2 hours of charge on it before it gives out so I have to go to sleep then. I'm getting a laptop in one week though so I'll probably get no sleep then :/

Call me psychotic or numb
I'm just a product of love

[quote][b][user]TarynKD[/user][/b] a dit : The internet. I only stop because I use it on my ipod touch which only has like, 2 hours of charge on it before it gives out so I have to go to sleep then. I'm getting a laptop in one week though so I'll probably get no sleep then :/ [/quote]

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kahbee said:
Apathy.

[quote][b][user]Marupinku[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]kahbee[/user][/b] said: Apathy.[/quote][/quote]

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The fact that sleep is a waste of time maybe? And all the things I haven't read or seen or heard yet? As long as I know there's something I need to do I don't sleep.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] a dit : The fact that sleep is a waste of time maybe? And all the things I haven't read or seen or heard yet? As long as I know there's something I need to do I don't sleep. [/quote]

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school / movies / music / too many friends online on icq / muse messageboards :D / books

"Opinions are like arses, everyone has them."

[quote][b][user]cockandroll[/user][/b] a dit : school / movies / music / too many friends online on icq / muse messageboards :D / books[/quote]

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- Eternalmayhem17 a dit :...
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- 14 jui. 2009, 11h53m
there's a few things:
for one, i forgot what it is to sleep normal, so far as body positions go. it seems like it would be a thoughtless process, but every position just feels so unnatural to me. i lie down and my back or neck eventually begin to ache. maybe i'm doing it all wrong. how do most people sleep? most times, i lie on my side and my head on its own, tends to tuck itself towards my chest and sometimes i curl into a ball. and to correct myself, i sleep on my back to straighten out. but then, other times, i don't know how my feet are supposed to be. because i'm on my back and my blanket being fairly heavy, they get pushed to an uncomfortable acute angle.
That's basically my problems. It's normally just the thought of body positions or restlessness that keeps me up.

[quote][b][user]Eternalmayhem17[/user][/b] a dit : there's a few things: for one, i forgot what it is to sleep normal, so far as body positions go. it seems like it would be a thoughtless process, but every position just feels so unnatural to me. i lie down and my back or neck eventually begin to ache. maybe i'm doing it all wrong. how do most people sleep? most times, i lie on my side and my head on its own, tends to tuck itself towards my chest and sometimes i curl into a ball. and to correct myself, i sleep on my back to straighten out. but then, other times, i don't know how my feet are supposed to be. because i'm on my back and my blanket being fairly heavy, they get pushed to an uncomfortable acute angle. That's basically my problems. It's normally just the thought of body positions or restlessness that keeps me up.[/quote]

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- 14 jui. 2009, 11h56m
oh, and also being anxious doesn't help either.

[quote][b][user]Eternalmayhem17[/user][/b] a dit : oh, and also being anxious doesn't help either.[/quote]

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- 14 jui. 2009, 12h55m
Eternalmayhem17 said:
there's a few things:
for one, i forgot what it is to sleep normal, so far as body positions go. it seems like it would be a thoughtless process, but every position just feels so unnatural to me. i lie down and my back or neck eventually begin to ache. maybe i'm doing it all wrong. how do most people sleep? most times, i lie on my side and my head on its own, tends to tuck itself towards my chest and sometimes i curl into a ball. and to correct myself, i sleep on my back to straighten out. but then, other times, i don't know how my feet are supposed to be. because i'm on my back and my blanket being fairly heavy, they get pushed to an uncomfortable acute angle.
That's basically my problems. It's normally just the thought of body positions or restlessness that keeps me up.

You're weird! Haha no, I do that too. It's why I wake up several times in the night. If you feel uncomfortable, just stretch out for a bit to loosen up. That's what I do anyway.

Why are you anxious?
I have created a habit of avoiding sleep because all my thoughts won't leave me alone when I'm lying in bed with nothing to do but think.

Stay gold, Ponyboy.

[quote][b][user]singing_stars[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]Eternalmayhem17[/user][/b] said: there's a few things: for one, i forgot what it is to sleep normal, so far as body positions go. it seems like it would be a thoughtless process, but every position just feels so unnatural to me. i lie down and my back or neck eventually begin to ache. maybe i'm doing it all wrong. how do most people sleep? most times, i lie on my side and my head on its own, tends to tuck itself towards my chest and sometimes i curl into a ball. and to correct myself, i sleep on my back to straighten out. but then, other times, i don't know how my feet are supposed to be. because i'm on my back and my blanket being fairly heavy, they get pushed to an uncomfortable acute angle. That's basically my problems. It's normally just the thought of body positions or restlessness that keeps me up.[/quote] You're weird! Haha no, I do that too. It's why I wake up several times in the night. If you feel uncomfortable, just stretch out for a bit to loosen up. That's what I do anyway. Why are you anxious? I have created a habit of avoiding sleep because all my thoughts won't leave me alone when I'm lying in bed with nothing to do but think.[/quote]

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- 14 jui. 2009, 13h53m
singing_stars said:
Why are you anxious?
I have created a habit of avoiding sleep because all my thoughts won't leave me alone when I'm lying in bed with nothing to do but think.

Hahah. Glad I'm not the only one.
It's usually little things that in the near future that keep me worried - first day of school, driving a somewhat far distance, etc. Basically just anything that is planned I get anxious about.

[quote][b][user]Eternalmayhem17[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]singing_stars[/user][/b] said: Why are you anxious? I have created a habit of avoiding sleep because all my thoughts won't leave me alone when I'm lying in bed with nothing to do but think.[/quote] Hahah. Glad I'm not the only one. It's usually little things that in the near future that keep me worried - first day of school, driving a somewhat far distance, etc. Basically just anything that is planned I get anxious about.[/quote]

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Heh, whoop, we're anxious together :P
That's like me as well. However, at the moment, there's a sort of sick feeling about everything. Friends, my uncertain future and myself. Self-centred, I know, but that's what happens in the early hours.

Ugh, not looking forward to seeing my awful exam results when they come out and then going to uni (if, that is, my results allow that)...

I'm not worryng about it as much as I should really. I seem to have blocked it out somewhat haha *anxious cough*

Stay gold, Ponyboy.

[quote][b][user]singing_stars[/user][/b] a dit : Heh, whoop, we're anxious together :P That's like me as well. However, at the moment, there's a sort of sick feeling about everything. Friends, my uncertain future and myself. Self-centred, I know, but that's what happens in the early hours. Ugh, not looking forward to seeing my awful exam results when they come out and then going to uni (if, that is, my results allow that)... I'm not worryng about it as much as I should really. I seem to have blocked it out somewhat haha *anxious cough* [/quote]

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- 14 jui. 2009, 17h29m
I'm writing a novel at the moment, the dark night is the best time for being creative for me. ^^

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] a dit : I'm writing a novel at the moment, the dark night is the best time for being creative for me. ^^[/quote]

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TheBlueScarab said:
I'm writing a novel at the moment, the dark night is the best time for being creative for me. ^^

Yeah, I find that too. Quite a few people feel that way actually. I guess, it's when the mind isn't cluttered with thingds from the day.

What's the novel about? Good luck with it :)

Stay gold, Ponyboy.

[quote][b][user]singing_stars[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]TheBlueScarab[/user][/b] said: I'm writing a novel at the moment, the dark night is the best time for being creative for me. ^^[/quote] Yeah, I find that too. Quite a few people feel that way actually. I guess, it's when the mind isn't cluttered with thingds from the day. What's the novel about? Good luck with it :)[/quote]

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- 14 jui. 2009, 19h13m
Willpower!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote][b][user]HumanRadiator[/user][/b] a dit : Willpower!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

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HumanRadiator said:
Willpower!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, good answer.
xD your avatar and your username as well.

Stay gold, Ponyboy.

[quote][b][user]singing_stars[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]HumanRadiator[/user][/b] said: Willpower!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Lol, good answer. xD your avatar and your username as well.[/quote]

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