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Does cursing ruin a song?

 
    • HankMulder a dit :...
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    • 17 fév. 2012, 18h38m

    Does cursing ruin a song?

    In your opinion.

  • No.

    It's the mighty penis laser, the cause for every scream. It is better then anything you've got cuz it's made out of a laser beam.
  • No.

    "Sometimes you have to confront your own patterns and expectations of yourself and do away with things that you enjoy doing in order to move forward and keep evolving as a musician. That's exactly the definition of the word progressive of course."

    - Steven Wilson.
    • Kennoth a dit :...
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    • 17 fév. 2012, 20h38m
    Depends on the lyrics, music, and the artist in general. But no, not for me, quite the opposite.

    Oh, shed a tear for the loss of innocence, for the forsaken spirits who aches... in us. Cry for the heart who surrenders to pain, for the solitude of those left behind!

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    • unwrittenx a dit :...
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    • 17 fév. 2012, 20h43m
    Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone.

  • No, for the most part, but when your listening to some slow/medium paced rock/pop and the artist casually swears, annoys me a little (especially if I'm having a romantic dance with someone).
    I think the artist should do a clean version, without a BBC type bleep, so you can choose the version you want.

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    • time2dive a dit :...
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    • 17 fév. 2012, 21h44m
    Swear words add emphasis. They help to better express certain feelings.

    I often wonder which artist was the first to curse in a song...
    As far as I know, it was MC5 when they said "kick out the jams motherfucker!" in 1970.

    Does anyone know of anything that pre-dates that? I'm interested to know. I feel like Bob Dylan might have, but I can't recall a song...

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    • dth3tr a dit :...
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    • 17 fév. 2012, 23h43m
    Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry" predates MC5 by 35 years. Google at your own risk :D

    • jpow258 a dit :...
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    • 17 fév. 2012, 23h46m
    Cursing doesn't ruin a song. Bad lyrics and/or sound overall does.

    • time2dive a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 0h03m
    dth3tr said:
    Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry" predates MC5 by 35 years. Google at your own risk :D


    I most definitely will :)

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    • [Utilisateur supprimé] a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 0h39m
    Not at all. I really depends on the music genre, the nature of the song and what the song is about. Some types of music are full of swearing and it's almost expected.


    To answer your question:
    The first use of the word "f*ck" was in a pop song released by Eddy Duchin in 1938. The scandal caused the single to sell 170,000 copies.

    • time2dive a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 0h45m
    Interesting.

    I love stories about people pushing the boundaries of what's accepted by society. Especially in music. Who will be the next Igor Stravinsky? It's going to take a lot more these days than it did back then. Wearing a dress made out of meat just isn't gonna cut it.

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  • No. Not even close.

    • dth3tr a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 1h37m
    Numah said:
    To answer your question:
    The first use of the word "f*ck" was in a pop song released by Eddy Duchin in 1938. The scandal caused the single to sell 170,000 copies.


    The song I referenced earlier in the thread is from 1934/5 and uses "f*ck" several times.

    I don't know much about it's history, but the fact it's raunchier than most everything curmudgeons complain about today is pretty funny. For a woman of that period (a black woman, no less) to be so freely owning her sexuality is pretty awesome.

    Modifié par dth3tr le 18 fév. 2012, 3h31m
  • No. I don't see why it would.
    Depends on the song I guess?
    Fits in well with metal IMO.

    A dying man needs to die, as a sleepy man needs to sleep, and there comes a time when it is wrong, as well as useless, to resist.
    • vodkaology a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 3h13m
    leighdobson said:
    No.

  • Much like in a novel, not if used in an impactful, rather than wasteful/unwarranted, manner. Cursing can enhance a song's power.

    • zeldas12 a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 11h41m
    unwrittenx said:
    Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone.

    • deafkid667 a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 15h22m
    witch craft has no place in music

  • If it seems to add to the song, I don't really mind. Unless it was central to the theme of the song, though, I'd probably find it annoying if it were a constant thing.

  • unwrittenx said:
    Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone.


    Agreed.

  • It would depend if it was needed, some songs are really powerful with cursing but others ruin it. Then again if the actual song is rubbish then it doesn't matter, it sucks though when you're listening to a song on the radio and it bleeps out all the cursing especially in songs that have a lot of cursing likeRollin

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    • Ninja1980 a dit :...
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    • 18 fév. 2012, 17h46m
    Depends on the song... if it is excessive, then yes... I think when there is swearing just to swear, it is juvenile. But in a song where it is used for emphasis of an emotion, it can add to the song...

  • Totally! If I had a threppence for every time in my life i've been sitting to a song, all innocent like, only to be indiscrimanetely cursed by ancient hexes. Its a bloody nuisance...

    :3

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    • V1nc3ntK a dit :...
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    • 20 fév. 2012, 15h38m
    It definitely doesn't sit right in a hymn.

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