Does cursing ruin a song?

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- HankMulder a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 18h38m
Does cursing ruin a song?

In your opinion.

[quote][b][user]HankMulder[/user][/b] a dit : In your opinion.[/quote]

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- leighdobson a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 19h04m
No.

It's the mighty penis laser, the cause for every scream. It is better then anything you've got cuz it's made out of a laser beam.

[quote][b][user]leighdobson[/user][/b] a dit : No.[/quote]

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- DonutDuDe1212 a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 19h22m
No.

"Sometimes you have to confront your own patterns and expectations of yourself and do away with things that you enjoy doing in order to move forward and keep evolving as a musician. That's exactly the definition of the word progressive of course."

- Steven Wilson.

[quote][b][user]DonutDuDe1212[/user][/b] a dit : No.[/quote]

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- Kennoth a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 20h38m
Depends on the lyrics, music, and the artist in general. But no, not for me, quite the opposite.

Oh, shed a tear for the loss of innocence, for the forsaken spirits who aches... in us. Cry for the heart who surrenders to pain, for the solitude of those left behind!

Think you got what it takes?

[quote][b][user]Kennoth[/user][/b] a dit : Depends on the lyrics, music, and the artist in general. But no, not for me, quite the opposite.[/quote]

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- unwrittenx a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 20h43m
Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone.

[quote][b][user]unwrittenx[/user][/b] a dit : Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone. [/quote]

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- mickeymay1968 a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 20h50m
No, for the most part, but when your listening to some slow/medium paced rock/pop and the artist casually swears, annoys me a little (especially if I'm having a romantic dance with someone).
I think the artist should do a clean version, without a BBC type bleep, so you can choose the version you want.

"I never picked cotton"

[quote][b][user]mickeymay1968[/user][/b] a dit : No, for the most part, but when your listening to some slow/medium paced rock/pop and the artist casually swears, annoys me a little (especially if I'm having a romantic dance with someone). I think the artist should do a clean version, without a BBC type bleep, so you can choose the version you want.[/quote]

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- time2dive a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 21h44m
Swear words add emphasis. They help to better express certain feelings.

I often wonder which artist was the first to curse in a song...
As far as I know, it was MC5 when they said "kick out the jams motherfucker!" in 1970.

Does anyone know of anything that pre-dates that? I'm interested to know. I feel like Bob Dylan might have, but I can't recall a song...

.this is our bomb.

[quote][b][user]time2dive[/user][/b] a dit : Swear words add emphasis. They help to better express certain feelings. I often wonder which artist was the first to curse in a song... As far as I know, it was MC5 when they said [i]"kick out the jams motherfucker!"[/i] in 1970. Does anyone know of anything that pre-dates that? I'm interested to know. I feel like Bob Dylan might have, but I can't recall a song...[/quote]

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- dth3tr a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 23h43m
Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry" predates MC5 by 35 years. Google at your own risk :D

[quote][b][user]dth3tr[/user][/b] a dit : Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry" predates MC5 by 35 years. Google at your own risk :D[/quote]

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- jpow258 a dit :...
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- 17 fév. 2012, 23h46m
Cursing doesn't ruin a song. Bad lyrics and/or sound overall does.

[quote][b][user]jpow258[/user][/b] a dit : Cursing doesn't ruin a song. Bad lyrics and/or sound overall does.[/quote]

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- time2dive a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 0h03m
dth3tr said:
Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry" predates MC5 by 35 years. Google at your own risk :D

I most definitely will :)

.this is our bomb.

[quote][b][user]time2dive[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]dth3tr[/user][/b] said: Lucille Bogan's "Shave 'Em Dry" predates MC5 by 35 years. Google at your own risk :D[/quote] I most definitely will :)[/quote]

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- [Utilisateur supprimé] a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 0h39m
Not at all. I really depends on the music genre, the nature of the song and what the song is about. Some types of music are full of swearing and it's almost expected.

To answer your question:
The first use of the word "f*ck" was in a pop song released by Eddy Duchin in 1938. The scandal caused the single to sell 170,000 copies.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] a dit : Not at all. I really depends on the music genre, the nature of the song and what the song is about. Some types of music are full of swearing and it's almost expected. To answer your question: The first use of the word "f*ck" was in a pop song released by Eddy Duchin in 1938. The scandal caused the single to sell 170,000 copies.[/quote]

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- time2dive a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 0h45m
Interesting.

I love stories about people pushing the boundaries of what's accepted by society. Especially in music. Who will be the next Igor Stravinsky? It's going to take a lot more these days than it did back then. Wearing a dress made out of meat just isn't gonna cut it.

.this is our bomb.

[quote][b][user]time2dive[/user][/b] a dit : Interesting. I love stories about people pushing the boundaries of what's accepted by society. Especially in music. Who will be the next Igor Stravinsky? It's going to take a lot more these days than it did back then. Wearing a dress made out of meat just isn't gonna cut it.[/quote]

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- thegarbutt a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 1h18m
No. Not even close.

[quote][b][user]thegarbutt[/user][/b] a dit : No. Not even close.[/quote]

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- dth3tr a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 1h37m
Numah said:
To answer your question:
The first use of the word "f*ck" was in a pop song released by Eddy Duchin in 1938. The scandal caused the single to sell 170,000 copies.

The song I referenced earlier in the thread is from 1934/5 and uses "f*ck" several times.

I don't know much about it's history, but the fact it's raunchier than most everything curmudgeons complain about today is pretty funny. For a woman of that period (a black woman, no less) to be so freely owning her sexuality is pretty awesome.

[quote][b][user]dth3tr[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]Numah[/user][/b] said: To answer your question: The first use of the word "f*ck" was in a pop song released by Eddy Duchin in 1938. The scandal caused the single to sell 170,000 copies.[/quote] The song I referenced earlier in the thread is from 1934/5 and uses "f*ck" several times. I don't know much about it's history, but the fact it's raunchier than most everything curmudgeons complain about today is pretty funny. For a woman of that period (a black woman, no less) to be so freely owning her sexuality is pretty awesome.[/quote]
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- DancinWithSmurf a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 2h35m
No. I don't see why it would.
Depends on the song I guess?
Fits in well with metal IMO.

A dying man needs to die, as a sleepy man needs to sleep, and there comes a time when it is wrong, as well as useless, to resist.

[quote][b][user]DancinWithSmurf[/user][/b] a dit : No. I don't see why it would. Depends on the song I guess? Fits in well with metal IMO. [/quote]

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- vodkaology a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 3h13m
leighdobson said:
No.

[quote][b][user]vodkaology[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]leighdobson[/user][/b] said: No.[/quote][/quote]

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- JBarracudaL a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 3h58m
Much like in a novel, not if used in an impactful, rather than wasteful/unwarranted, manner. Cursing can enhance a song's power.

[quote][b][user]JBarracudaL[/user][/b] a dit : Much like in a novel, not if used in an impactful, rather than wasteful/unwarranted, manner. Cursing can enhance a song's power.[/quote]

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- zeldas12 a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 11h41m
unwrittenx said:
Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone.

[quote][b][user]zeldas12[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]unwrittenx[/user][/b] said: Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone. [/quote][/quote]

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- deafkid667 a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 15h22m
witch craft has no place in music

[quote][b][user]deafkid667[/user][/b] a dit : witch craft has no place in music[/quote]

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- Chronologicque a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 15h52m
If it seems to add to the song, I don't really mind. Unless it was central to the theme of the song, though, I'd probably find it annoying if it were a constant thing.

[quote][b][user]Chronologicque[/user][/b] a dit : If it seems to add to the song, I don't really mind. Unless it was central to the theme of the song, though, I'd probably find it annoying if it were a constant thing.[/quote]

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- NightVermillion a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 16h49m
unwrittenx said:
Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone.

Agreed.

[quote][b][user]NightVermillion[/user][/b] a dit : [quote][b][user]unwrittenx[/user][/b] said: Only if they're redundant and exist for pure shock value alone. [/quote] Agreed.[/quote]

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- BobbySimKendJoe a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 17h04m
It would depend if it was needed, some songs are really powerful with cursing but others ruin it. Then again if the actual song is rubbish then it doesn't matter, it sucks though when you're listening to a song on the radio and it bleeps out all the cursing especially in songs that have a lot of cursing likeRollin

Imahni:)

[quote][b][user]BobbySimKendJoe[/user][/b] a dit : It would depend if it was needed, some songs are really powerful with cursing but others ruin it. Then again if the actual song is rubbish then it doesn't matter, it sucks though when you're listening to a song on the radio and it bleeps out all the cursing especially in songs that have a lot of cursing like[track artist=Limp Bizkit]Rollin[/track][/quote]

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- Ninja1980 a dit :...
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- 18 fév. 2012, 17h46m
Depends on the song... if it is excessive, then yes... I think when there is swearing just to swear, it is juvenile. But in a song where it is used for emphasis of an emotion, it can add to the song...

[quote][b][user]Ninja1980[/user][/b] a dit : Depends on the song... if it is excessive, then yes... I think when there is swearing just to swear, it is juvenile. But in a song where it is used for emphasis of an emotion, it can add to the song...[/quote]

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- selfsurprise a dit :...
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- 19 fév. 2012, 17h43m
Totally! If I had a threppence for every time in my life i've been sitting to a song, all innocent like, only to be indiscrimanetely cursed by ancient hexes. Its a bloody nuisance...

:3

"The art of the present is too close to be judged or made sense of now; too unkown to be forced into language; too bright to do anything other than dazzle those who try to look at it. If we want to understand it, we must wait until it stops changing and living, until it eases into a position of comprehensibility and is written into history". ~ Lisa Le Feuvre

[quote][b][user]selfsurprise[/user][/b] a dit : Totally! If I had a threppence for every time in my life i've been sitting to a song, all innocent like, only to be indiscrimanetely cursed by ancient hexes. Its a bloody nuisance... :3[/quote]

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- V1nc3ntK a dit :...
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- 20 fév. 2012, 15h38m
It definitely doesn't sit right in a hymn.

[quote][b][user]V1nc3ntK[/user][/b] a dit : It definitely doesn't sit right in a hymn.[/quote]

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